The door swings both ways, steph and i defend jason, while you defend zach. If you arent defending him in this thread then i guess i'm blind.
I don't see anyone censoring your complaints about mnsubaru in this thread or a few others around here. i'd rather let people read and decide what they think for themselves, so long as it doesn't get so that people can't read it at work, I don't care. hey, take it as a compliment if what you think affects people so much. I personally think that you are in a leadership position and people like to look up to you and do what you say. Stop grouping me in with other people you might have problems with, I think of you all as individuals. Then its funny that you directed your homepage at me for overhearing something i said to another person. if thats not starting drama on your site then maybe I need to have my head checked. It's not my forum, i just kind of do what i can to help, which is less and less these days because i'm so busy. sorry if i created the impression that you can't complain about it, i hope this thread airs things out then. I'm not going to tell you what to do on your website you can do whatever you want with it. lol the T shirt blurb on your site says otherwise. I didn't comment on any of your comments at all until you started to say that me or someone else who runs this site is trying to troll it up here for some odd reason. I don't understand why you think that and thats what I was wondering aloud. I haven't been censoring your posts or telling you what to say have I? you're not trying to kill the site and i don't want to say that at all. i just think that if you're going to take the occasional jab at us, don't be surprised if i jab back and thats EXACTLY what happened here, nothing more.
I don't give a crap about zak in this situation. I had no idea of any beef between the two. I answered a direct question about why people "get huffy" about his jokes. It's because I think his potty humor ain't all that funny.
I agree, you can read for yourself and take whatever side you want. Bummpy was a friend of mine before he even owned a subaru so naturally he is going to probably support what i'm saying. You're the other admin of t3hw00t and you're going to have your stance too, and thats natural. There are a lot of other people reading this and they are forming their own opinions and thats fine. Ultimately whoever reads this decides who they think overreacts, who they think is funny, who they think is sad, who they thing is right and who they think is wrong.
Please don't take the front page article personally...it was directed at all the people that were third party complaining about members on t3hw00t. Not just you. And the t-shirt thread. Come on man. We are poking fun at the cones, I can look back on it and laugh, and I'd hope that anyone else involved in that can at least snicker a bit at the absurdity. If they can't, well, I don't know what to say. I'm not trying to cause drama with the shirts, it was for a laugh. And I'd hope that anyone that saw what happened at the ice-races last year can get a little chuckle from it. We were going to put "We're here to ruin the Ice Races...again" on the backs, but even that was meant as a joke. In fact, we've been trying to be active in making this Ice Race more organized. Ask Rich, we're trying to keep things clean and neat this year. We're providing a banner out of my own pockets for the start/finish, and some other course bits. And I'll probably donate a few cones. The shirts weren't meant to inflame. And I never had issue with you until you started getting all high and mighty on my posts. I was scratching my head as to why I was hearing about your issue with 'the racist' and it came at a time when I was scratching my head about alot of private complaints. Take that how you want. But that post wasn't directed at you in particular, it was directed at everyone that was beating around the bush with their issues at the time. Your situation was just the last thing that came up and what pushed me over the edge and made me say something.
why does it seem every so often we get the pleasure of a thread like this? This thread started out funny, but now is all serious with everyone getting e-hurt.
Ok, i accept that, jsut no way to really tell fom my position i guess. Like I said before this stuff doesn't make me lose sleep, I was disappointed with the fact you appeared to be endorsing something which seemed uncharacteristic of you. I know you're not racist in any way, you're a military guy, and it seemed out of character for you. I really do appreciate what you are doing with rich and think that you're working towards compromise which is always ideal. I am not so thin skinned or humorless as you may imagine me and certainly it doesn't bother me, but as a mod i have to take into account what might bother others as well. That being said it doesn't bother anyone that I currently know of. The guys who help pout on this site aren't spouting a seething cauldron of hate in parts unknown. I however did get annoyed when awd called me "butthurt" over getting my car burnt by someone throwing fireworks at it. We are all anal about our cars here and i know if it was most people here they would have not liked finding stuff like that on their paint. I get what you're trying to say, but again, from my perspective it was you telling me to stfu about having an opinion about something I found more distasteful than most. but then again if you want to get someone pissed, make a black joke around a black guy and see how that goes... Sure its a double standard, but i don't care. must be how i was raised. I don't think any less of you, its all just internet stuff. I'm just one of the many moderators here, probably the most loud and obnoxious of them to be sure, and i admit that about myself freely. I don't want anyone to get the idea that I have a vendetta against anyone or am targeting your posts or anyone else's I just call it as I see it. I'm looking forward to working together with the woot people on the ice race and i think its going to go well, people know that some people want to party, some people want to drive and some people want to do both. I believe the only problems last year stemmed from the fact that it wasn't so clear, and i think an abundance of thought has gone into it since then that will fix any minor issues. And I do mean minor, really I had a great time last year and anything that came up I wouldn't chalk up to anything more than a minor annoyance.
this thread never had a topic, but i just gave myself 5 points =] if people dont talk about the problems they don't get fixed.
ok, I didn't follow anything on t3hw00t, but I think that is funny. really. Maybe all of us moderators that go to the ice race should have t-shirts printed up with a "NO FUN ALLOWED" sign on the back.
because before the building can ultimately become more stable you need to fix the foundation. let there be votes..voting for admins(president), mods(VP), treasurer, secretary, etc. that is the quickest way to ultimate success. this way ever year the most active people will generally become elected which will make the club a better place. Justin ps- the above statement has nothing to do with any person in this thread, just my general opinion that i have had for a long time. if you get butt hurt about the above dont expect any response from me. hugs and kisses.
How about we just install this vBulletin plugin? http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=156256 That way anyone who wants to be banned can ban themselves by just posting "[ban_me]"
and those shirts sound like fun.... both the here to ruin the races and No fun allowed... as far as voting on mods etc... I am fine with how it is.... but thats me.... e-fights for the win.... type type type type type!!!!!
group hug. I'm glad we had this breakthrough here. And I'm looking forward to an intensely fun Ice Race this year. With well drawn boundries on the racing vs mayhem portion. I know the cone thing was out of line last year, but it doesn't make it any less funny to me. Does that mean I'll do it again, I doubt it. We learned quite a bit about mixing race people with party people and the in betweens last year. Now we just have to figure out how to cater to both without pissing off the other. Which shouldn't be a problem at all. The party cabins are well marked. If you don't like drunk mayhem, steer clear, and you all know where the racing happens, don't ruin it for the people that came to race. And I'll see about getting some 'drunk cones' together so people can race drunk and not have to worry about wrecking cones. We can compromise, and I'm all about working together with MNSubaru to keep the fun, but keep the fun organized. Now, can we call truce and stop all this rivalry business, it gives me a headache. (and, makes me late for work, like it did today.)
There is why it will never happen, a complete and total lack of how a successful club should be run. The last thing you want is the president of the club to be the site admin. The site should have different people in charge than the club. The site admin should take car of the site, not the site and the club. The club president should be making things in the club happen and not have to worry about if the software has been updated. Hugs and kisses Russ
^^^lol, I was never a direct victim of the funnAy but if were going to have boundries I thought I would bring it up.. My opinion: bring on the funnAy.....
umm...sounds like there's gonna be good guys and bad guys...hahaha -------Ice Racing CRASHERS, yeaaa!!!-------
No. Don't ever compare our antics to that stupid movie. Readymix vs Owen Wilson ---X---------------------- Actually owns a subaru ---X---------------------- Nose is huge, but not busted ---X------------X--------- Is a celebrity ---X---------------------- Hasn't tried to kill himself ---X---------------------- Is actually funny ---X---------------------- Actually knows how to ruin a party in real life Winner: Readymix
