looking at some potential new cars, used to own a 2013 WRX that i really enjoyed and off the subaru website i noticed that 2020 STI can be had stripped down for a little over 36K? did the msrp drop? if so, is it because there's a new model coming in 2021? is it worth getting a 2020 or major improvement are slated to be implemented sometime soon? i found a few that are selling for that price, 36K, to me it seems like a good deal, i would not buy this thing in the 40s so that's my only appeal. also looking at VW golf R as a comp, and considering which one would be a better buy. i loved the reliability and resale of my WRX, essentially had it for close to 3.5 years and it costs me $3K to own it (bought vs. trade in value) and nothing beyond gas and oil changes. it seems like the STI motor is not as reliable and the 2020 would keep that? thanks for your thoughts
Rumor mill has it that the new one is dumping the EJ25 in favor of either the FA20 or FA24 DIT engine, with a 5 hp increase on the 20 or 25+ hp jump in the 24. Just speculative til the official release is out on the 23rd at the Tokyo Auto Show. GTI is almost 80 hp less and 10k less, and resale I don't think is quite as good as Subarus, but still better than a lot of cars out there.
on the 23rd of October? hmmm... maybe i should wait it out and the price would get depressed even more. i could care less about the HP number, my concern more was about STI blowing gaskets or whatever the issue is, i never had an issue with my WRX motor and wonder if some of the issues with the STI is the clientele and potential beating that the cars go through. btw, i'm not comparing it to a GTI, i'm comparing it to R, which is 288/280 out of the box and for $1K you can get a factory warranty retaining tune that brings it to 357/350 hp/tq. and all this comes with 6yr 72K mi warranty.
I dumped my SJ FXT and went GTI Rabbit, zero regrets. 18/19 VWs are going to have the people's first warranty, 6yr/72k mi warranty, nicer ride, and substantially better build quality. I also looked at WRXs, STIs, Golf R's and a few other things. Had the Golf R not been about 15k more than my Rabbit, I would've gone that route as a buy once, cry once car, and I've contemplated the switch every time I've been to the dealer for an oil change or car shopping for the wife when her car was totaled. I still own two Subarus now, but the modern VWs are substantially better built than the Subaru options and interiors are miles nicer.
I have never driven a Golf R, but i have driven the sister car S3 and was very impressed with the power and delivery. It felt a lot faster than the 2013 STI I drove but could just be the auto gearbox.
would have thought there would be more positives about the STI considering it's a subaru forum good to see people regard the vw well, i'm really liking the R w/ DSG.
Volkswagen has done impressive things over the years. The rumors will most likely be right. Either FA20 or FA24. I personally think they will split the engines between between the WRX and STi, but that's just a theory of mine. I have always liked the R series VW's. DSG's sound great too. My RS3 sounded great as well. I had a '13 WRX it was an amazing car. I really liked it, but the STi was better in most ways. I paid around $35k for my '15 so that amount for a base STi seems reasonable. The STi is much better than you think as long as you treat it well. I have had 3 STi's and had none of the issues people always talk about.
