92 oct MTBE, ethonol free

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    bikerboy Subie GOD Staff Member

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    Just thought I would share this with everyone. My jet skiing buddy informed me that this Shell station has it at the pump. I think he said it is usually .25$ more expensive than regular 92.


    Wayzata Shell
    1022 E Wayzata Blvd
    WAYZ, MN 55391 - 1811
    (952) 473-9451
     
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    Quite a few stations around with non-ox (no ethonal) fuel. There's an Amoco on Penn just south of 62 that I frequent for 92 non-ox. I have a list somewhere of stations with non-ox in the twin cities. I'll see if I can find it.
     
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    what about that one gas station on whitebear and 94....premium gas only...at unlead price....ahahah...fuji lost a dollar when we was there yesterday.....put in a dallor and was about to insert another but started to push button....and lost it with no gas fill..ahaha...sorry fuji....
     
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    Enlighten me please. What else is in it then? Also, what's the difference? Prob stupid Q but whatever.
     
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    Government mandate says that all pump gas in MN has to be approx 10% ethanol. The reasoning is that our refineries can't keep up with the gas demand, and that it helps to burn cleaner. I wouldn't be surprised if the corn growers association was behind it (ethanol is made from corn). There's a couple of problems with ethonal. It burns at a different rate than the fuel it's in. Modern day cars with knock detection handle it ok, but older cars (collector), boats, etc can't take it, so we have non-ox (no ethanol) gasoline available. Also, ethanol can dry out the rubber seals it touches quicker than non-ox fuel. Typically, you can get smoother power and better mileage from non-ox gasoline. The only problem you may run into is if the gas has been sitting for a while. Stations must have vented tanks, and some of the good stuff evaporates right out of the fuel if it sits too long (goes stale). So best bet for non-ox is near a marina or something where lots of boats come through and fill up frequently.

    Some of this info could be incorrect.. Might have some of my facts mixed up ;-)
     
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    MTBE: Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether

    ethenol= corn

    Corn growers are subsidised by the government to produce it as an aditive (dilute) our gas.
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jprice

    There's a couple of problems with ethanol. It burns at a different rate than the fuel it's in. Modern day cars with knock detection handle it ok<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

    More specifically, I believe it makes the fuel burn faster than it otherwise would. Which is why the ignition advance values reported by my ECU at around 3200 RPMs and about 10 to 12 lbs of boost drop through the floor (down into the single digits). Our gas sucks, true story.

    EDIT: yes, please post the list
     
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    This was pritty much directed for you Joel, Keep the info coming!
     
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    yep, it's 4 feet from the 100 unleaded at the wayazata shell.
    two thumbs up from me.
     
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    I know there is one down in hastings also (at the big holiday). I used that all the time when we used to go out riding (atv's motocross).

    Russ
     
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    Cool. Thanks for the info! :cool:
     
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    Enjoy! Some place where you can get Power 110 racing fuel...

    Lubrication Technologies, Inc.
    900 Mendelssohn Avenue North
    Golden Valley, MN 55427
    800-636-7990

    4-Seasons Auto Mall
    New Hope, MN
    (763)551-3686

    Applied Dyno
    Eagan, MN
    (651)681-1937

    Beach's Long Lake Service
    New Brighton, MN
    (651)784-6924

    Charlie Brown's
    Elk River, MN 55330
    (763)274-1575

    Eagle Motor Sports
    Long Prairie, MN 56347
    (320)732-2592

    Elko Speedway
    Elko, MN
    (952)461-7223

    Mega Stop
    35W & County Road 70, Lakeville, MN
    79th & Nicollette, Bloomington, MN

    Michel's Small Engine Service
    Mankato, MN 56001
    (507)387-7846

    Raceway Park
    Shakopee, MN
    (952)445-2257

    River Side Oil
    Monticello, MN 55362
    (612)295-3708

    RJM Motorsports
    White Bear Lake, MN
    (651)407-1846

    Tesar Engineering
    Long Lake, MN 55336
    (952)473-0203

    Triangle Oil 66
    Baxter, MN 55425
    (218)963-7808
     
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