Discussion in 'General Subaru Discussion' started by regularguySTi, Feb 20, 2015.
I really don't want to accept it
Answer: No, you're not.
That is probably a fair comparison. Instead of "vtak" and "nawz" it's "turbroz" and "bov valves".
Not alone. Every time I hear some douche say he drives a 'rally car' that has 'boxer rublez' I weep for the future.
People say that ****?
Hopefully not out loud, but I did see a forum post in the very recent past of some kid referring to his rally car for the street or some nonsense. It wasn't in the typical mocking fashion you see around here.
I think the new FA engine WRX sounds riceier than it ever has. It lost its growl when it lost the unequal length headers.
They're cheap enough for high school kids to have now a days and engines can be swapped across different platforms just like Hondas.
There is a whole contingent of children that grew up watching the Fast and Furious movies, and now that you can a bugeye for well under 10k, there are going to be a ton of these idiots running around in them.
And with stance being super popular with tasteless idiots and the attention whore, lowest common denominator crowd that the average high-schooler thinks is cool and looks up to, we may have to deal with that bull**** for another 5-10 years till it finally dies off.
or until they do......
Wait, I want to clarify. Are you guys saying that douchebags didn't always drive Subarus?
Its been said about GCs and bugeyes since the GR came out. A lot of turbo subaru drivers came from hondas, so it makes sense that things come around full circle.
Yeah, about 10 years ago the 'scene' was filled with do-it-yourself-ers, people that were interested in every aspect of how a car is assembled and how it worked, and there was innovation. People on here talked alot of tech, and there was always something interesting coming down the pipe for Subaru performance, usually with an associated build log of their activities, with pictures and the thought processes behind what they were creating. At the time, I personally thought it'd be cool when the price comes down to a more reasonable level, because then people on lower budgets would be able to get something cool going without breaking the bank. Instead, it's teenagers and early 20 somethings stickerbombing a body panel and stancing their cars.
Now, there's about one or two good build threads per year. There are more 'how do I get that poked look' threads than build threads, lots of threads where someone asks for advice and ignores it to go blow thousands on some flavor of the week turbo setup that they paid someone else to install, and "what shop should I go to for a full engine build?" type threads. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.
Anyone on here remember when Chux and his buddy with the old Subaru two door hatch drove through lake Superior with their snorkeled off-road stuff? Or when piddster and his other Duluth pal had those home built rotated setups in old, busted ass early 90's turbo legs? AWDimprezaL had a nearly 300k mile 2.2L NA Impreza with a self made turbo kit that still runs to this day. There were like 6 simultaneous engine builds going on at any given time. You had to fight for parking at the meets because everyone wanted to see what sort of wacky project was going to roll into the lot that night.
Now it is pretty much just NF leghumpers buying thousands in parts and dropping their stuff off to get built for them, or the random, flatbrimmed, knuckledragger asking where to get 225's stretched on his 9.5" wide Rotas and who can loan him a fender roller. There's a couple full car home builds going on, but you can usually go a week without reading their threads as they aren't making progress because it is frigid-**** cold outside.
Ahhh, those were the days...i miss seeing the crazy builds and the "OG's" at meets.
And Jaegermeister t3hw00t hats.
Ice races and Justins goofy ass shooting bottle rockets out of the Mag Wag.
And cone bowlinz...
Sounds like straight-cut gears
I think it's a cyclical thing, there are still people like Mattnes doing the DIY'd turbo NA thing in their garage, and that's cool to see. But less people do seem to be inheriting the wrenching spirit. I'm probably not the best person to talk anyway, I'm a wimp about working in the garage during the winter : /
The LOL'mobile was so full of win! @readymix, do you still have pics of it with the smilies?
Jumbo smilies>extra HP stickzorz
I'd love to have the resources and know how to start hot rodding and making some funky combo of Subie madness, but it's just not realistic for me. Just gotta stick with the one I have and hope that I can keep it alive as is. Try to do most of the work myself and thoroughly enjoy it for the most part, especially when something goes right, but I gotta draw the line somewhere as it's still a daily driver. I'm hoping to do a little more funkification/experimentation when it comes to rebuilding the Chevelle, tho.
Well yeah, not criticizing anyone for not blowing their wad on modding. Just saying there used to be lots of entertainment and car porn here, which is fun even when you don't have the scratch to do it yourself. Trust me, I'm right there with you. I like living vicariously through other peoples wacky builds almost as much as I enjoy building my own crap.
I'm sure there's plenty of wad blowing going on here...
I'm blowing so many much wad my eyes hurt, right now...
The mix is right- there are couple guys I get pumped reading about.... But dammit if I have to read another thread about painted tail lights or grills.. I will throw feces
Plz halp. I didntz want 2 start a nu thrad. But kan sum 1 halp me do dis 2 me car? Im lookin 4 mad stanz. Plz halp. I've got a budget of $200 to do dis.
Forgot to add /s
I like where you're going with this. Be sure to label any naysayers as "hayterz" or "hatters." Personally, I always preferred "hatters" because everytime I saw someone post it, I imagined myself in a fine woolen tophat and maybe a pipe in hand, informing them in the finest of ye old english, that their choices are bad and they should feel bad.
Reasons for me anyway why I dont have something planned :
1. Insufficient Funds because other priorities are more important at this time
2. Not enough ample space when you have to share an underground car garage with grannies
3. It is not warm enough / clear enough to make my motorcycle a daily again.
4. No extra parking space for another car / Do not have extra car for said lulz.
In the near future I hope to get a DD for work and make my subaru the fun car by doing something unique for it. Ive had a bunch of interest in wanting to know how things are assembled / how they work. Just haven't had the time yet.
Here you go, with the aforementioned "MagWag" in the background as well.
*sigh* Yep, those were the days!
My problems are 1) lack of time/money. 2) lack of range in tools, and finally 3) lack of a Subaru ....and friends.
Agreed with nearly everything said here. It is really frustrating watching the bros just f' everything up for legitimate "car guys." I've tried to go out to a couple local meets and even hosted car shows at my old job. All the mouth breathers come out and immediately start blowing each other over their "stanced" out crap. The car shows I hosted always had a mix of imports, hot hot rods, muscle, low riders, or whatever came out, yet the young kids would never go pick the brains of anyone or even talk to someone outside their "crew," then sit and talk like retards and act like idiots and wonder why Enthusiasts don't take them seriously.
It's interesting to hear your impressions on the way things are changing in regards to DIY, outside of the box, or unique builds.
I come from the Jeep world and have seen the exact same things take place there. What used to be a buch of guys building incredible machines from scratch in their garages has turned into forums full of questions about what to buy or what would look cool.
DIY Shadetree FTW!!!!
Have any pictures of the rotated intake manifold setup? I'm trying to get an idea of how im going to do that.
I'll have to dig around, I might have some pics. But I remember it being pretty straight forward when I did it. The biggest hurdle you'll experience is moving the alternator, as you will end up getting rid of the A/C compressor to make a spot for it. There might be newer, better ways to achieve this now, and possibly some that don't involve losing your air conditioning. There weren't pre-made kits or anything when I did it, so I improvised quite a bit and had to craft some of the parts from scrap metal around the garage.
Pardon my ignorance (aka, stupidity) on the subject, but I've got a real noobish question. What is the point and/or benefit of running a turbo in a different location/orientation than "stock"? I can easily grasp the concept of using a bigger turbo, but what does its location affect in a way where so many people take the time to move it?
you can't run a turbo inlet pipe that's larger ID (required by 'big boy' turbos) unless you move the pipe so it doesn't run under the manifold runners, aka a rotated setup.
That makes sense. And is pretty simplified. Thanks. More air coming out of the turbo means more air has to go in obviously, thus bigger inlet. I can totally see that after both a) trying to move my stock inlet pipe out of the way to repair fuel lines with the intake on, and b) trying to stuff my damn aftermarket silicone inlet on there.
Also, in the case of front facing or fog light mounted turbos you are trying to minimize exhaust and intake runner length to improve spool and maximize power (more efficient piping). The stock location has a lot of twists and turns in the exhaust manifold before the turbo and has a long distance to go which loses heat and exhaust energy meaning you have less energy to spin the turbo.
1. barrel chested women
2. blackozone gives good head
3. yup, cheap car now becomes the new honda. Plus no one wants to work on their **** themselves anymore. Couldn't agree more with the readymix rant.
It's not THAT ricey...just a bit more subtle than the 2.5s i think.
You can make a honda sound similar to a Subaru with unequal length headers.
It's automotive "enthusiasts" everywhere, not just Subarus. Try to follow the trends in the VW community, just a couple of them are what you're starting to see in the Subaru community. If they aren't the next "legit" "game changer" because of what color they plasti-dipped their taillights, they want to know what's the best shop around to get a $1000 exhaust built on a $50 budget.