Berkeley, CA City Council tells US Marine Corps they are "Unwelcome and Uninvited"...

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  1. bikerwriter
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    Which is how the Fed paid for the last tax rebate. It was all unclaimed funds that illegals couldn't file for.
     
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    Fair statement. However there are other credible sources out there that say that last month was one of the deadliest moths of all and so on. I listen to a radio that is independant and not supported by government or Fox TV.
     
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    Yep, that's correct. And if your friends are working jobs where money could be paid under the table to someone else, then again, they need to work harder. I watched a crew of 8 white guys roof a house behind me. They took 3 days to complete the job. Every time I looked out the window, they were standing around, drinking coffee and chatting. Or just standing around. The crew that roofed my house estimated 2 days to complete the job. The crew arrived on Thursday morning at 8am with a foreman and 4 hispanic guys. The roof was finished in 6 hours. And I have a much larger roof than the guy behind me due to the 3 car garage and the second story. And from what I gathered from the guy behind me, it cost me less to do it. Sorry, I'm not going to piss away more money to a bunch of white guys to watch them stand around goofing off all day, when I can pay less to some guys that might be illegal and will do the job just as good, and much faster.
     
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    you mean the one you get after you pay your taxes for this year?
    Well, thats an "advancement" on your next years taxes that gets added on.
    Most think it is stimulating to teh econ, and alot are spending/will spend it, but when tax time come next year, **** will probably be worse.
     
  5. curly2k3
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    as spoken by the person who has been talking like the headlines at Fox News.


    wait, what the hell govt. in fairy land do you anticipate to live in there big guy. there is no govt. in the world that is near straight... honest and just, please, as long as the desire for change is there and there is a strong enough motivation that is what i believe, you need to create the change and motive to drive the economy in a forward and positive direction.
     
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    lmao no it wasn't.

    They issued a ****load of bonds that China immediately gobbled up.
     
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    That whole thing sparks up another crucial moral and soveriegnty of the present dilema, but I will just be "ignorant, stupid, 16, highschooler,and racist" by the end.
     
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    I am talking about scum ****ing the system and my new catch phrase "leaching". That is what I meant.
     
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    again, we dont own our own debt even anymore... thats what is tough about it this time.
     
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    Fail. It was hyperbole. Just like China wasn't the only buyer of bonds.

    But the money that is withheld from illegals and unclaimed by illegals is still spent by the Fed.
     
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    No, thats not what i said. I think International affairs is very important. I think its too late now to pick up and leave. But at this point i dont even know what better leave or stay. The poo pool is so deep that its getting really hard to swim in it. The government know much more than we do. So there is two options they either have a good plan coming or they are totaly screwed and will have to admit it pretty soon.

    The thing is that people are gritty and want more power. But if people who are in power of all the counties can work things out the good old diplomacy/ conversation way we will be ok. There much more powerful things than war, you can cut of shipments of first nessesety(sp) things and they will have a hard time fighting.
     
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    Act of War.
     
  13. curly2k3
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    who says the govt. didn't know or does know more than they said/say? i laugh at this assumption.
     
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    Spot on. BTW thats what i call mutual help. And thats whats going to save the world. Even commies came to help us out.
     
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    you can call it anything you want, it wasnt really to help us out, it was for them to get stock in us.
     
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    Buying our debts and getting ready for a case of chinese "Lebensraum" to me..
    not good for the US
     
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    Ok, i am really tired i did not do any of my homework. I love this debate but i need sleep. So good night eveyone and i will pick this up tomorrow.

    Dosvedanie.
     
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    Only because they think we'll pay them in 30 years. Suckers... :biggrin:
     
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    :)I like you.
     
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    I wouldn't call this helping us out......

    But then again, we are kind of putting ourselves into our debt dilema with China.
     
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    ha, that's when they flex their military muscles and kick the **** out of us
     
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    and with these i have found the demise of mankind. lol
     
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    I don't watch the news. I don't have cable. I have no time for tv in my day. Even so, I wouldn't watch Fox. And isn't fox the right leaning news network? So now I'm right leaning, at least I got that through to you.
    Ha, and I'm living in dream land? Honest and just people? Illegal immigrants, and the companies that hire them, aren't even close to the problem there.
    Stand in line for what? Instead of standing in line, they go right out and beg for work. When I lived in California, every day on my way to the FedEx depot, I'd come across a group of hispanic guys that would ask me if I had any work for them to do. They aren't sitting in line at unemployment looking for handouts, they aren't sitting around at a job placement center telling the counselor there that the jobs available aren't what they want. They are out there BEGGING to work. And they are willing to work for whatever you can pay them. Debauchery? Seriously, they aren't trying to pull a fast one. They are just WORKING. They take the jobs that they can get. And if it came down to some us citizen asking for 10 bucks an hour to do the job, and an illegal that is willing to do the job for 8 bucks an hour...both equally qualified...they are going to hire the illegal. Plain and simple.
    Go vote. And make your government fix these problems. If you don't have any faith in your government, then they will surely fail. You go out and cast your vote for the person you think is going to do the job. And if they don't, you speak out and let them know. Bitching about illegal immigrants on a local subaru forum will not change anything. If you have a problem with illegal immigration, write your congressman and let him know. They will write you back with their position. And if it doesn't conform to your position...don't vote for them.
    Sorry, but I'm going on the blanket statements you made about muslims. I've been to Bahrain, I've been to Dubai and Jebel Ali. And every time I've stepped foot in those places, they are very friendly people. They have their customs and their religious practices, but they are still people. And I respect those practices while I am there. And when prayer time starts, and everyone drops to the ground, I walk silently and with respect to their customs. And if I chose to pray to the Christian God, they would extend the same respect. They forgive you for your mistakes with regard to their customs. Mutual respect is a thing that can't be taught, it must be experienced. When I stepped foot on middle eastern soil, I immidiately realized that what I am used to doesn't apply. And I made appropriate changes out of respect for that culure. When I see a muslim in the US, I respect their beliefs and customs just the same. I don't want Sharia law here, but at the same time, I can respect what their culture expects. Muslim extremists are to the muslim community as the Phelps are to the Christian community. Neither represent the whole of the groups they claim to represent. And I don't base my opinions of Christians on the actions of a few ignorant jackwits in Kansas because I've met thousands of Christians that are very good, honest people. Same with muslims, I have met thousands of them that are good, honest, decent people that live their lives and try not to step on anyone else's toes.
     
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    all 89669 billion of them,and north korea coming for the joyride too.
     
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    I think China giving us money now and holding a 30 year Note Payable reduces the chance of our going to war. They'd be out all that money!

    Capitalism brings peace again!
     
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    bwahahahah!

    Brilliant! :biggrin:
     
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    i too :laugh: at this, clever.
     
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    stand in line for proper legal immigration.


    The few Muslims I know, are nice and are people. BUT their parents do bring extreme prejudice to the Catholic white man, insane amounts more than I am wary of the actions of Islam.It is how they are brought up.
    Seriously, how can a person with common sense totally accept the teachings of the Koran? Treating your wife as an animal in public, Jihading to become a true muslim. Suicide bombing? Yeah, I think I will spend the night!
     
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    wow, that is all i can even say to you. you are so ignorant and closed minded its unbelievable. everyone knows the "catholic man" is sinless right, not to mention the ideal of good and just. give me a damn break, crazy ass radical christians are no different or better than radical muslims. Simply stated, you sir, are a biggot, a racist american jackass.
     
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    I was not even hinting towards what you have clearly misread.
    I am very passive and accepting to people and ideas, your stupid asses cant get around that.
    I walked in to the kids house, the father yelled at my friend who later said that his dad asked "what in muhhammeds name is that trash doing here!?". I had never even talked to the guy or family before, and thats what I got.
    **** you all, seriously, you are the biggest bunch of ****s ever.
     
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    Don't forget clueless high school kid who thinks he knows how the world works and has it by the balls.


     
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    oh good call dan, but he takes "college" classes so that makes him more well versed and educated.
     
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    **** yeah, I know everyhting and ive got a 5.66gpa and i has a job and i am the biggest cool opene minded liberal but sometiems i like to be a consurvitiv cuz they have nice suits so then i like grab a mini globe by the inviisble ***** and then say aha! I can box without gluvs!
     
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    Logistically speaking, it isn't going to be an invasion. They don't have the assets or the ability to move that many people across that kind of distance. The Pacific makes a great moat. Which leaves them ICBMs. Suddenly a missile defense system doesn't seem like such a bad idea after all. The US is the only country capable of moving large amounts of troops in a short period of time anywhere in the world, and we've proven that on several occasions. Between our airlift and our seagoing capabilities, we respect the Chinese military, but we don't fear them. We may not have their sheer numbers, but we can start taking them out very, very quickly should it come to that.

    And like bikerwriter said...They'd be out all that money :laugh:
     
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    How can someone with common sense accept the teachings of the Bible? If you really want to go down that road, it is a slippery slope. Suicide bombings aren't in the Koran. And maybe his father has read some of the ignorant nonsense you spew about muslims on the internet. If I was a muslim, I'd refer to you as trash too.
     
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    not going to lie, i really didn't read most of your babble there...but i enjoyed the hate PM. :laugh:
     
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    BINGO! thank you Jason once again for beating me to a post and saving me time.
     
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    to become a true muslim and recieve your 77 virgins, you must make a glorious jihad to the god allah. even more glorious than Pilgrimage to Meccah
    thought you would know that, muslim theoligist
     
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    Nevermind. The ignore function is my friend.
     
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    Well of course we would try to take it over to their turf.....that's how all of our wars have been in modern history. However, we would be in for a big suprise if we decided to invade them.
     
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    You obviously read a different Koran. Find me a definition for the word 'Jihad'
     
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    Maybe we should take bets on the next shooting war.

    "Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but I do say no more then ten to twenty million killed, tops. Depending on the breaks."
     
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    get your facts straight, read it.
    Without a Jihad of the sort, you arent making it to Paradise.
     
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    Again, define Jihad...or nevermind, I'll do it for you.

    Jihad is struggle. A struggle to better yourself in the muslim faith. To overcome the evils and struggles within yourself and cleanse yourself of the sins you commit.

    The western, ignorant definition of Jihad is 'holy war' or blowing up people in the name of Allah.

    Now that you understand what they were talking about with reference to Jihad in the koran, feel free to go read it again.
     
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