Berkeley, CA City Council tells US Marine Corps they are "Unwelcome and Uninvited"...

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  1. readymix
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    and it just so happens the trend of "struggling" is fighting the infidels and inferior.
    touche.
    "Striving for righteous deeds."-hmm, carbombings against the jews?
    many more, but ive run out of steam.
     
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    havent the jews gotten the ****stick enough? you bring them and muslims up everywhere. give it a rest, new facts or bust.
     
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    Again, more generalization based on the actions of fringe groups. Striving for righteous deeds has nothing to do with carbombings. That is just what a small fraction of idiots do...just like picketing dead soldier's funerals isn't something a majority of christians do.

    Now, for the ignore function. And save me the PMs, I will delete them if they arrive. And if you decide that spamming my inbox is something to do, I'll go ahead and inform the mods. Have fun in your ignorant bubble.
     
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    the grownups had their fun tonight!
    badger the kid!
     
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    Okay, here's a new question: is one culture superior to another?
     
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    I don't think we'd be doing that. It doesn't serve any purpose for us, and we definitley don't have the troops anymore to even attempt something like that. An amphibious invasion takes a lot of people to perform and we just don't have it. However, we do have the capability to take them back to the Stone Age very efficiently and without resorting to nukes. They don't have the strategic bombing ability, nor the platforms needed to perform said bombing. We can put a stealth bomber up from Whiteman AFB in Missouri, drop the bombload and land back in the US or England and the only evidence we were there is the craters left behind. And thanks to the accuracy of our weaponry (Just let me know which window pane you want that bomb to go through Captain ;) ) we don't have to go after population centers. Take out government buildings, power plants, dams, military or civilian airfields (actually, the airfields would be some of the first things to go anyway. Air superiority is something we've specialized in from WWII onwards), anything that makes a country function. The population will only take so much for so long before they either force their government to surrender or force that government out themselves and capitulate. A shooting war with China I think would be much different in that I don't think we'd be trying to take ground and keep it, but rather to displace the hostile government. Just my late night thoughts on the matter.

    And bikerwriter, i was rolling when you quoted Dr. Strangelove. That's one of my all time favorites.
     
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    you honestly brought it on yourself man, you had more than your share of warning. with that said, i made my points and read EVERY dang post in this thread since its creation, now...i am going to bed. later you angry mob of subaru jerks. :p
     
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    I know i said i will go to bed but i just cant not to say something.

    My friend, this is a very touchy subject. what you are saying is not whats written in Koran. Koran is a very, very old teaching that is written in a very complicated Arabic dialect. Lots of people can swing things in all kinds of ways they want when they interpret it.

    I truly think you are a great guy. I might be wrong but i think you might have had a one particular situation where a Muslim might have played a bad role. Now you are stereotyping. I do it all the time too, but when you sit back and think that there millions of people who are Muslim and are not terrorists your view on the world changes.

    Or they can just stop making our: Furniture, cell phones, car parts, and a ton of other things and the economy is going to self destruct.

    Please refer to my first post in this sequence of endless posts.

    Yep pretty much, i dont think we will make it there if they crush our stock market.
     
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    oh no, a bunch of minnesota import guys dont like me :(
     
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    had to edit the previous post, grammar is not my best friend.
     
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    Mine too!

    I agree that the best we could do is keep the Chinese penned in while we bomb their infrastructure, but I wonder if such a one-sided exchange wouldn't provoke them to use ICBMs...
     
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    word, im cool and stuff but whatever. ifugged up. dont really care, dont know anyof you except for fobia-and barely

    also, if our econ was crushed, china would be hurt too-seeing as we are a MAJOR importer for them, and exporter to them aswell. So in my "close minded, ignorant" speculations, China will do nothing of the sort to totally cripple our econ.
     
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    lmfao, thank you Taras, you saved me the effort ;)
     
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    I'll have you know my car was rebadged in Sweden! And it's the only thing to have fallen off...
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: owned! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    Just quick note here. Jihad is a "war", very figuratively speaking to save your religion, meaning pray to god and value your religion. So no you dont have to go and kill bunch of people in the name of God.
     
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    honestly, whatever.
    it seems like one can do better acting as a burnout in this type of ****.
     
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    LOL.... Barkley FTMFW!
     
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    Yep, no problem. And yes i agree with you, we are all too interconnected now one goes down the other goes down too. So Chinese know that if US economy goes down they are screwed cause who are they going to sell their lead filled toys? And russia knows that if the prices of oil go down( which the will not in near future) they are F-ed.
     
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    alright guys, lets play it cool and call it a night. fair enough? lets take it easy, things were said that weren't needed.

    I will be the first to say i am sorry, Taras i gave you a hard time tonight, Jake i didnt let you off easy either. Pete, well no...i meant it. lol

    I think we had some good discussion but i think we need to stop the bickering and ignorant posting because its just pissing eachother off more than anything.

    this is the internet, its all in fun and games anyways. keep it sleazy, i am going to bed.
     
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    Taras, I just about frickin clapped at my desk!
     
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    Thats fine. I very much appreciate your apology.

    no we need this locked for the sake of leaving this on a good note. I am sure there will be more threads of this kind and we will fight more and call names but thats ok it will end up nice and easy.

    Good night MNsubaru crowd.

     
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    And to think.... 20 pages because the ****ing nut bags in Bezerkly can't figure out what decade they are in. You all have to remember that Berkley is the worst of the worst. I even think Marin county is frowning on this one.

    Take it from someone who grew up in the Bay Area.... this is nothing new.
     
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    idk my bff jill
     
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    Jill is SOOOOOOOOO hot. I love girls with curves.
     
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    Agreed with your analysis.

    I was speaking about a purely hypothetical situation -- hopefully we wouldn't be stupid enough to run out a full on invasion, hahaha.

    However, I think that any sort of military action against China would be unwise -- who knows how the nutjob in N. Korea would react. :eek4:
     
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    Ok, So after reading the first few posts, I got pretty pissed off.

    Here's my $.02
    I support our troops, but I'm not a fan of our leader. I respect our military. I think it's crap that someone would ban the military from their city. Do I agree with the war? No. Do I protest the military for trying to recruit? No.
     
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    wow I have a lot of reading to do to catch up here. I only made it through 60 posts lol, only 200+ to go.

    I heard about the original topic a few days ago. I personally think that it is personally bogus, that a city is forcing a military recruiter to leave. That recruiter has every right to be there. they are not doing anything wrong and should not be hated, if people want to join let them. Its kind of like minneapolis telling the U of M to leave because we dont like higher education.

    Ryan: i wish more people who dis like our leader had your point of view.

    Nathan: I love that quote you put up from the Australian Prime Minister. The Aussies are +10000 in my book now :)
     
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    I think that most people do.

    However, it's those retarded fringe groups (left- or right-wing) that are often the most vocal about their views. As such, it's one of those types of situations where a small group ruins it for everyone else.
     
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    You are kind of missing the point. This whole fiasco stemmed from the city's anti-discrimination law against sexual orientation. They basically told the Marines to either quit discriminating against homosexuals (ie, act in compliance with their local laws) or gtfo.

    Then a bunch of other morons spun the thing waaaaayyyyyy off track into what you are reading/hearing today.
     
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    WOW religion, politics, and sex.

    This thread is like a Jerry Springer episode. :biggrin::biggrin:
     
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    As a Marine who has been working on recruiters assistance for nearly a month now, trust me when I say its unbelievable that people dont think this doesnt happen ALL the time.

    Hell, I'm an alumn at normandale and I'm not allowed to walk around their halls in civilian cloths and talk to my friends about the corps without an appointment. Their new female dean of students tried to have ALL military kicked out in the past year or so, including many retired Soldier and Marine students who are taking classes through their GI bills.

    Most of the time we just smile, say thankyou, and move on with our day. There have been a few instances where I'm glad the corps instilled a LOT of self restraint in me.

    For instance, being slapped by a middle aged woman at the gas station while in civilian cloths was a nice touch.

    And regarding gays in the military, I am a firm believer that they dont belong, largely for their own safety. We spend a lot of time in close quarters, and are also put in a lot of situations where being concerned about a marine having innapropriate emotional attatchments to another Marine would really degrade morale in a unit.
     
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    It even has our own version of the beligerent, white trash bigot screaming ignorant and racist remarks from the audience.
     
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    Then again, what would anyone at berkely know about the brotherhood among Marines?

    They wouldnt know what kind of stuff you go through in bootcamp, the rank hierarchy and how it structures everything, or even the traditions and history. They just like the flap their jaws and say that gays arent given rights.

    ****, their not allowed to join the Marine corps and then be vocal about being gay. Its not the end of the world. Realizing that sticking themselves into a position to BE discriminated is half the problem, the decide to complain? Homosexuals DO EXIST in the military. Everyone knows who they are, and the other 99.9% of the military members I know, DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE SERVING WITH THEM.
     
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    there, my first beligerantly ranting pissed off post.

    And RARASASDGASDFASDF AAAHHHH from the audience members

    Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
     
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    lmao!

    Who's going to go ahead and start throwing e-chairs?!? :laugh:
     
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    Don't mess with 'Steve' Jack...he's known for 'throwing down!':laugh:
     
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    Steve has his own show now. :p
     
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    I for one definitely don't want any gay bullets being fired on our behalf, and especially don't want any gays over in the middle east just being allowed to gay it up.
     
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    And he still doesn't take **** from anyone. lol :p






    STEVE! STEVE! STEVE!:rockwoot:
     
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    I agree with you. I think the whole thing about gay and lesbian soldiers is just wrong. I doubt any gay man or women would anyway join the army. And I think its outrages that they treat military like that at normandale. You dont have to hate gays if you are in military. Or am i wrong here?
     
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    Homophobia is a very bad thing.
     
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    I'm not sure I agree with what you're saying about gays in the military. Honestly, what's the difference between gays and ugly girls? You don't want either of them hitting on you. If they do, brush it off, thank them for the flattery and move on. On the other end of the spectrum, flamboyantly gay dudes are annoying. And have no place in the military. I agree that love is love and all, but being all loud and proud about where you stuff your junk is absolutely retarded. If you can't talk like a normal adult and carry on conversations about things other than your sexual orientation, then yes, stay away from the military. It should be don't ask, don't tell in my opinion because it really isn't anyone's damn business but your own. You are there to do a job, not to get dates...be they straight or gay.
     
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    Don't believe anything that fondune types. In fact, treat him like opposite George. :p