Yeah yeah yeah, and just think of your precious Briggs and Stratton mower. Good luck trying to convince your hippie Prius-driving neighbor that every time he mows his lawn he would pollute less driving a Hummer to Florida.
^This Seems like in MN there is a pump with e-85 every 30-40 miles...here in WI, I think last I checked there were under a dozen in the state. I only live about 30 miles from MN, and my nearest E-85 pump is about an hour away, in MN. If I could get E-85 in the town where I live, or less than 5 miles away, that would be my goal, to run a stage 2 on E-85...till then, the plan is to go with pump 91:roll: and meth...someday...
There is a plant in southern MN that makes it also. The ethanol plant is on hwy 52. Me thinks they use corn/soybeans there.
E-85 is a waste of time. You will constantly have to tinker with the map. Your gas mileage will drop close to 30% under DD driving. The only place where e-85 is going to shine, is on WOT pulls. Basically you are gaining the octane, so you can mess with the afr's to pull more power out of it. You will loose that benifit when you are under normal driving. A low compression motor is the worse thing you could run with e-85. You will reach MBT way before you start to run efficiently with e-85. If you read up on e-85 and motor requirements, they call for a 14:1 to 16:1 compression ratio for the motor to maximize the fuel. Of course that is for a NA motor, but cruising down the freeway, that is all you are using anyways. Cost vs benefite, and it comes down to a waste of time and money. As for the enviroment, ethanol is killing it. Don't forget that for every gallon of ethanol, it take 12-15 gallons of fresh water that does not get recycled. Russ
Fail How is it that water is not recycled? Polluted, yes, but the only way to not recycle water is to keep it in a sealed container for eternity. I made the point earlier about corn and it's not so green agriculture. As for cellulosic (or whatever) ethanol...would it not be easier just to make methanol instead...being that you can make methanol out of almost anything, including the massive amounts of garbage we make. I realize methanol is MUCH more harsh than ethanol on tanks, hoses, etc...just wanted to point that out.
I say do it. Its getting big popularity in the Evo world. I find it odd that it seems that the Subaru crowd and Mitsu crowd have 2 completely different views of this stuff. I test drove an evo that was boosting 29psi all day on E85 as his daily driver. Its 110 octane for around the same price as 92. They really get into it as well. They take the octane sensor that comes in GM's FlexFuel vehicles and they have it programmed to automatically adjust their maps depending on what the sensor is picking up in the gas tank. Pretty neat stuff and very resourceful, similar to how we like the GM BCS. I didn't read much into it since I didn't get the evo, but I read enough to get a feel for it. If my cobra was turboed I'd be running E85 since the power can be used at the turn of a dial on the boost controller. A lot of turboed cobras are going E85 and E92, FastMark is tuned for E92 and has written quite a few insightful threads on it over at Modularfords.com.
Well, if you are looking for cheap race gas, go ahead. If you are looking for something for a daily driver that will get half assed milage, I would not be running e85. Again, not under boost (90% of DD), you are running a low compression 4 cylinder, probably the absolute worst place to run e85. Russ
