Friend drove my car, fried the clutch......

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  1. itsmyfallt
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    I havent posted to mnsubaru for quite some time, so I apologize if this is in the wrong place. Title kind of says it all. The clutch was fine when I got out to let him drive (he has driven stick before and said he was completely comfortable driving my car). I was riding a motorcycle and was ahead of him until the first stoplight. We made it about 6 blocks and he had the clutch smoking. Pulled into a gas station and I got in to drive and there was zero pressure on the clutch pedal, it goes to the floor and the clutch wont engage at all. I am wondering if this could be a linkage issue so there is no pressure being built up by the clutch, or if he managed to fry the clutch in the mile he drove it. Unfortunately he cant explain to me what exactly happened and what he did. I'm obviously quite annoyed with him right now.

    The car is an 05 rs impreza, does anyone have any ideas?
     
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    Does it engage if you manually lift the pedal off the floor?
     
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    the pedal still springs back up, but there is zero resistance when to push to the floor
     
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    Seems like master clylinder is shot.
     
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    i am assuming that this would be considerably cheaper (and easier) than replacing the clutch. and im curious if the clutch would even be good after what happened?
     
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    If the master cylinder was shot, it likely wouldn't come back up off the floor. Have you checked to see if the clutch fork is still intact? Does it move back and forth when you press the pedal? Does the car drive at all or is it like the clutch is not engaged? It could also be a damaged pressure plate. If you aren't able to troubleshoot it yourself, I would suggest having a shop look at it.
     
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    The car doesnt drive, i can push in he clutch pedal, put it in gear, and release the pedal, and the car still doesn't move, so the clutch never engages. The car is currently in Plymouth and i love down in richfield, any particular shop you would recommend that i can take it to?
     
  8. RichWRX
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    I have a master cylinder from a 04 sti sitting in the garage if you end up needing one
     
  9. itsmyfallt
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    So it turns out it is in fact the clutch. The shop I talked to said that everything else was fine, except the clutch. I am a mechanically inclined person, I've pulled motors on friends cars and I do all my own work on my car, just never a clutch. Would this be something I could attempt to do on my own?
     
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    Dropping the transmission or pulling the engine are the two options you have. Transmission being the more popular one.
     
  11. project/driven
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    Trans out clutch swap is very easy if you have a second set of hands to man handle the trans out. The toughest part can be actually separating the trans from the block. It is really very strait forward mechanical stuff.
     
  12. Shane86
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    you do realize there are alot of parts of "the clutch" and there are going to be different issues to resolving them?

    Is the pressure plate damaged? clutch fork? throw out bearing? disk surface damage?
     
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    I just assumed he would be replacing the PP, the disc and the TOB along with the pilot bearing all at once since it is coming apart.
     
  14. Nuke
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    that should all be included in a clutch kit
     
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    He is bringing it to the shop. It'll get some love this week.
     
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    How many blow jobs from the buddy's girlfriend does this guy deserve?
     
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    Or his buddys sister?
     
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    Well, this is what we found

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    Enjoy
     
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    Looks a lot like your friend's life expectancy just dropped significantly... ;)
     
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    Enjoyed so much did a rat get in there?
     
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    Been at work all day, and it's safe to say, my friend is never touching my car again. He may or may not go missing....
     
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    holy ****! is that even possible? apparently.. impressive.
     
  25. KA-T_240
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    Is that even possible in a short time driving the car?

    Pics of the flywheel?
     
  26. Mr.Tran
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    I've seen that happen once before with a eBay clutch.
     
  27. Nuke
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    surprisingly the flywheel looked fine...
     
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    Holy crap and crap!!
     
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    That'll buff out.
     
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    Well, that looks...weird.

    As a guy who's beaten the piss out of a NA Forester for 7 years with something sizably north of 200 redline launches and about 120k miles on a bone stock from the factory clutch that still works like 100k miles ago when I first bought the thing, I really have no idea how you can wreck these clutches so easily.

    Abuse should just glaze the clutch, just like you'd do to cheap, organic brake pads. Falling apart, I would think that's a completely different issue, a material failure...for whatever reason. That's not worn down or burned. That's just chewed up, torn apart. Cheapy aftermarket replacement? Adhesive failure? Animal playground? I don't know. I wouldn't call it user error though. I'd be more inclined to call it crappy engineering or external influences at play.

    Then again, I don't know much about clutches. They're just inverse brakes to me, lol.
     
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    Clutches tend to get more testy when you add another couple hundred awtq. I only ever killed one in 15 years of driving... until the LGT. I'm on clutch #3 and likely saving for #4 now. Probably a fair bit of user error involved there. Thing is, user error desn't bite you nearly as hard when you're driving something gutless.
     
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    You sure you didn't pull that our of this:
     
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    +1. I don't believe this could be from such a short drive, especially on a non-turbo car. I've seen that happen before, but with poor quality parts.



    How many miles were on this clutch? Brand? Maybe your friend gave it the final straw.....but I think it was merely coincidence that it failed then.
     
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    A friend of mine had this happen to her 1999.5 Jetta. Co-worker borrowed it to run an errand. Called a few min later saying it was broken. Shop found a clutch that looked like the first pic, but on both sides. Pads completely gone and no scratches on the rivets even.