Gauging interest in tunning by Jorge (RiftsWRX)

WRX1 · Apr 12, 2005

Save you stock injectors and contact me. I can get ya some modded injectors that will flow around 650-680 (depending on how I drill them out) without the problems you will run into by cutting the caps off. Stay away from pe injectors.

Russ

radwrx · Apr 12, 2005

Are talking about drilling out the stock ones or the sti injectors?
I've heard of people having alot of problems with the stock ones being drilled out. How much would you charge to help a brother out,if i can get the stock ones drilled out to 680 I will do that before Jorge gets here.Let me know! Thanks in advance J.J.

WRX1 · Apr 13, 2005

Jim, a e-mail has been sent.

Russ

RiftsWRX · Apr 13, 2005

As an FYI for all the AccessPort people who've been asking. I just got done talking with Trey today, he's going to overnight me the non diclosure paperwork for the Protuner beta, and I'll have it in a few short weeks, with a more robust version (though the beta will be perfectly usable) by dyno time.

So, unless something happens between now and the beta roll out. It looks like we'll have proper AP support of custom maps for those who may have been thinking of an AP, now or at a future event.

DISCOPOPE · Apr 13, 2005

what is the average time frame for an individual tune?
i'm trying to get an idea of my final cost.

RiftsWRX · Apr 13, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DISCOPOPE

what is the average time frame for an individual tune?
i'm trying to get an idea of my final cost.

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?? I'm afraid I don't follow.

The dyno day is setup at a flat rate which includes the dyno time, my time, and just about anything you'd like me to do in those 2 hours. Get your minds out of the gutter.....

DISCOPOPE · Apr 13, 2005

right yes, but 5 cars at 2(??) hours each plus dyno time, hotel and fan rental = x($$ammount) divided by 5...

i guess i havn't seen a flatrate per each quoted yet..

wrxpeed · Apr 13, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by radwrx

I'll will have a U-TEC,VF22,STI pinks,MRT TMIC,UP PIPE,DOWN PIPE, TURBO BACK,WALBRO 255,AND MIGHT HAVE THE TURBO XS BOV. I'm hoping to get 275-300 to the wheels. If Jorge needs any other info let me know,or if i'm just dreaming to get that horsepower also let me!
TIME TO GO FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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my buddy josh (not a part of our club) had basically the same setup (he had one of those secret BB VF22s that were floatin around the metro area) and only dynoed about 250hp at RS, he wasn't tuned though, but it is on a mustang (read:heartbreaker) dyno, so 250-275 seems reasonable.

RiftsWRX · Apr 13, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bikerboy


OK folks, I will have to appoligize for some miss comunication between Erik, Jorge, and me.

We have some pricing issues we need to talk about. Jorge has raised his rates from last year and I was not aware of it. He went up from 75.00/hr to 100.00/hr. Unfortuniately, this was not comunicated to me that there was a cost increase.

In addition to this change Jorge is also bringing Amy this year and they are staying in a Hotel. Last year he stayed with me so there was no additional cost as he stayed at my house. The cost for the hotel is 225.00 for his stay here.

So as you can see we are upside down on the cost for the event 475.00 at this point, and this does not include the fan rental as well. At this point I am sorry but we need to raise the cost for the event by 100.00 per person. I am truly sorry for the problems but it would not be fair for any of the three of us to eat the additional cost.

For those who are in a guarenteed spot please sound off that you are still willing to get a tune done.

I am so sorry for the issues please accept my appoligy

Matt
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Disco: I thought that's what this post was for?

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

RiftsWRX · Apr 13, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by wrxpeed

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by radwrx

I'll will have a U-TEC,VF22,STI pinks,MRT TMIC,UP PIPE,DOWN PIPE, TURBO BACK,WALBRO 255,AND MIGHT HAVE THE TURBO XS BOV. I'm hoping to get 275-300 to the wheels. If Jorge needs any other info let me know,or if i'm just dreaming to get that horsepower also let me!
TIME TO GO FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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my buddy josh (not a part of our club) had basically the same setup (he had one of those secret BB VF22s that were floatin around the metro area) and only dynoed about 250hp at RS, he wasn't tuned though, but it is on a mustang (read:heartbreaker) dyno, so 250-275 seems reasonable.
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Sounds about right. 250HP (assuming the 15% change they claim between DD/mustangs vs. Dyno Pack's), that's 288 HP.

Typically FMIC vf22's average between high 280's and low 290's, so that's pretty **** close.

P.S., if that was the guy with the automatic and the VF22.. it was "kinda" tuned. Basically enough to cover what the turbo was putting out. IIRC it wasn't holding boost.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

bikerboy · Apr 13, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by wrxpeed

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by radwrx

I'll will have a U-TEC,VF22,STI pinks,MRT TMIC,UP PIPE,DOWN PIPE, TURBO BACK,WALBRO 255,AND MIGHT HAVE THE TURBO XS BOV. I'm hoping to get 275-300 to the wheels. If Jorge needs any other info let me know,or if i'm just dreaming to get that horsepower also let me!
TIME TO GO FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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my buddy josh (not a part of our club) had basically the same setup (he had one of those secret BB VF22s that were floatin around the metro area) and only dynoed about 250hp at RS, he wasn't tuned though, but it is on a mustang (read:heartbreaker) dyno, so 250-275 seems reasonable.
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Oh god no not this again! A secret BB VF-22

DISCOPOPE · Apr 13, 2005

$475+$100+fan rental?
yes?

bikerboy · Apr 13, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DISCOPOPE

$475+$100+fan rental?
yes?
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Aaron

We are at 450.00 for two hours right now. RS has fans now so we do not have to worry about that. What is not covered is Jorges hotel (225.00) and hospitality. If you would contribute to that Erik and I would appreciate it.

DISCOPOPE · Apr 13, 2005

yeah, i was wanting to chip in for the hotel and what not... that's np.

I just did'nt know time wise what we needed per car.. i thought jorge's time was on top of the $475 for dyno time. i'm thinking this is a way better deal now.

thanks matt

bikerboy · Apr 13, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DISCOPOPE

yeah, i was wanting to chip in for the hotel and what not... that's np.

I just did'nt know time wise what we needed per car.. i thought jorge's time was on top of the $475 for dyno time. i'm thinking this is a way better deal now.

thanks matt
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Dyno time is not 475.00 more than double that. I think you miss read my post. Erik and I are in this for more than 2000.00 right now till we gwt money from people.

DISCOPOPE · Apr 13, 2005

lol, we keep talking in circles...i know how much it ran you guys last year..

i had originaly thought that the cost was going to be $475 per car[\b] for dyno time plus fan THEN $100 per hour for jorge's time making each comitment upwards of $700

if i am understanding this correctly now each person's comittment is $450 with a hotel and hospitality chip in...

readymix · Apr 13, 2005

WTH is going on here. Can someone come up with a reliable price quote? Seriously, this seems disorganized and I don't like paying into something that has hidden costs or costs unaccounted for. I don't know about you, but blindly throwing 700 to the wind with no idea where the money is going or why you are paying it is foolish. Can someone come up with a solid price quote for this shindig?

radwrx · Apr 13, 2005

I'm with readymix on this get me a price thats not going to move and I will let you know if i'm in or not this is crazy!!

Dynapar · Apr 13, 2005

i just checked w/ my dad re: coolign fan. the one we have puts out approx 700 CFM. i will have to double check this. (i might be able to get more than 1.

readymix · Apr 13, 2005

I'm not trying to raise a stink here, but I need to allocate funds for this. I have lots of other projects that can use money, but I don't want to put money anywhere for June until this tuning thing is settled. I can't very well budget my income when the price of this tuning has so far ranged from 450 - 700 dollars.

-Jason

bikerboy · Apr 13, 2005

$450.00 for two hours of dyno time and Jorge's services

If you would like to contribute to the hotel and food fund cool.

The original first post:

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dream

Hello guys!
Myself and Matt are planning on getting our cars tuned sometime this summer by Jorge (RiftsWRX) and was wondering if 3 more people would be interested in going in on this. If we cant get atleast 5 people he wont come and ill be taking a road trip to Chicago Im not quite sure of the prices yet but when I emailed him the other day, he said he charges $100.00 per hour for his services. I know this kind of thing happened last summer so maybe some of those guys can chime in and give more info on how this would work. I know his flight charges and living arrangements would have to be split by all involved. We would like to do this sometime in June or July. Anybody interested?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My first quote on last years price.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bikerboy

Well looks like there is some interest here. The math escapes me right now but IIRC It was 350.00 for a two hour session. This did not include the money I spent on Plane ticket, Fan rental, and proper care of Jorge.
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My post on page 5 and the edit to the original post

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bikerboy


OK folks, I will have to appoligize for some miss comunication between Erik, Jorge, and me.

We have some pricing issues we need to talk about. Jorge has raised his rates from last year and I was not aware of it. He went up from 75.00/hr to 100.00/hr. Unfortuniately, this was not comunicated to me that there was a cost increase.

In addition to this change Jorge is also bringing Amy this year and they are staying in a Hotel. Last year he stayed with me so there was no additional cost as he stayed at my house. The cost for the hotel is 225.00 for his stay here.

So as you can see we are upside down on the cost for the event 475.00 at this point, and this does not include the fan rental as well. At this point I am sorry but we need to raise the cost for the event by 100.00 per person. I am truly sorry for the problems but it would not be fair for any of the three of us to eat the additional cost.

For those who are in a guarenteed spot please sound off that you are still willing to get a tune done.

I am so sorry for the issues please accept my appoligy

Matt
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I do not know what the deal is here but do you guys even read the posts? I mean really WTF !

radwrx · Apr 13, 2005

O.k. everything is understood so i'm still in! The other jiberish just confused me! And i'll kick in for the other expenses,as much as i can afford at the time but it will be something!

Can't we all just get along!!!!!!!!

wrxpeed · Apr 13, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RiftsWRX

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by wrxpeed

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by radwrx

I'll will have a U-TEC,VF22,STI pinks,MRT TMIC,UP PIPE,DOWN PIPE, TURBO BACK,WALBRO 255,AND MIGHT HAVE THE TURBO XS BOV. I'm hoping to get 275-300 to the wheels. If Jorge needs any other info let me know,or if i'm just dreaming to get that horsepower also let me!
TIME TO GO FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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my buddy josh (not a part of our club) had basically the same setup (he had one of those secret BB VF22s that were floatin around the metro area) and only dynoed about 250hp at RS, he wasn't tuned though, but it is on a mustang (read:heartbreaker) dyno, so 250-275 seems reasonable.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Sounds about right. 250HP (assuming the 15% change they claim between DD/mustangs vs. Dyno Pack's), that's 288 HP.

Typically FMIC vf22's average between high 280's and low 290's, so that's pretty **** close.

P.S., if that was the guy with the automatic and the VF22.. it was "kinda" tuned. Basically enough to cover what the turbo was putting out. IIRC it wasn't holding boost.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com
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it actually wasn't an auto, a 5 speed WRB '02, he had stock IC though at the time.
BTW, i really wish i was in on this, now that i have the utec, ohh well, maybe next year, but put me on the waiting list anyway guys, if by some chance i get a shot, i'll take it.

readymix · Apr 13, 2005

Sorry, yeah. I think my mind got spun up with all the odd posts. I am still in. I'll pitch some to the hospitality fund too.

And I have a quick UTEC question. Is the Stage4 FMIC TXS map good enough to run the car for a while? Is it pretty conservative?

-Jason

RichWRX · Apr 13, 2005

Is there any way that I might get a tune? let me know if it looks like i wont be able to, so I can look for someone to tune my car for me, I dont want to wait till june and find out that I cant get it done and have to look for someone else to do it.

Thanks
Rich

Zola · Apr 13, 2005

Jason,

The Stage 4 map is plenty conservative, especially with fueling (in my experience). You would want to tweak the boost map and parameters to your liking.

readymix · Apr 13, 2005

Thanks Zola, I can't get rid of my AccessPort fast enough The UTEC is one of those mods that gets your heart racing because it has alot of functionality...especially when you have been on an AccessPort for about a year. I will probably just run the Stage4+FMIC map then, and get rid of my AP as soon as humanly possible.

DISCOPOPE · Apr 14, 2005

matt I can very well read the posts.

there was never a clear quote per car until yesterday after i asked.

$350 was not quoted until page 2 then page 5 or 6 where it got bumped to $475, now we are at $450+ chip in.
you have to admit, it's a tinch confusing..
i am very thankfull that you and erik are arranging this, i know you both have alot invested in this and i want to be a part of it.
i just needed a little bit of clarification on my final $$

i apologise if i confused anyone else along the way.

RiftsWRX · Apr 14, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RichWRX

Is there any way that I might get a tune? let me know if it looks like i wont be able to, so I can look for someone to tune my car for me, I dont want to wait till june and find out that I cant get it done and have to look for someone else to do it.

Thanks
Rich
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Rich,

About the only thing I can say is look at this.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=742559

Before you think the $275 for the dyno day spot is a great deal, bear in mind you're spending approx $160 in gas alone, before the inevitable hotel stay, unless you plan on doing the drives in one day, etc.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

bikerboy · Apr 14, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DISCOPOPE

matt I can very well read the posts.

there was never a clear quote per car until yesterday after i asked.

$350 was not quoted until page 2 then page 5 or 6 where it got bumped to $475, now we are at $450+ chip in.
you have to admit, it's a tinch confusing..
i am very thankfull that you and erik are arranging this, i know you both have alot invested in this and i want to be a part of it.
i just needed a little bit of clarification on my final $$

i apologise if i confused anyone else along the way.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

The original first post:

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dream

Hello guys!
Myself and Matt are planning on getting our cars tuned sometime this summer by Jorge (RiftsWRX) and was wondering if 3 more people would be interested in going in on this. If we cant get atleast 5 people he wont come and ill be taking a road trip to Chicago Im not quite sure of the prices yet but when I emailed him the other day, he said he charges $100.00 per hour for his services. I know this kind of thing happened last summer so maybe some of those guys can chime in and give more info on how this would work. I know his flight charges and living arrangements would have to be split by all involved. We would like to do this sometime in June or July. Anybody interested?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My first quote on last years price.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bikerboy

Well looks like there is some interest here. The math escapes me right now but IIRC It was 350.00 for a two hour session. This did not include the money I spent on Plane ticket, Fan rental, and proper care of Jorge.
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My post on page 5 and the edit to the original post

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bikerboy


OK folks, I will have to appoligize for some miss comunication between Erik, Jorge, and me.

We have some pricing issues we need to talk about. Jorge has raised his rates from last year and I was not aware of it. He went up from 75.00/hr to 100.00/hr. Unfortuniately, this was not comunicated to me that there was a cost increase.

In addition to this change Jorge is also bringing Amy this year and they are staying in a Hotel. Last year he stayed with me so there was no additional cost as he stayed at my house. The cost for the hotel is 225.00 for his stay here.

So as you can see we are upside down on the cost for the event 475.00 at this point, and this does not include the fan rental as well. At this point I am sorry but we need to raise the cost for the event by 100.00 per person. I am truly sorry for the problems but it would not be fair for any of the three of us to eat the additional cost.

For those who are in a guarenteed spot please sound off that you are still willing to get a tune done.

I am so sorry for the issues please accept my appoligy

Matt
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I am sorry for the confusion you see in these posts. Please reread the above posts as I believe that they state the fact. They are all in order of post.

This was not only directed at you but Ready as well. I am sorry for my tone but I have alote of things going on and I really don't have time for this stuff.

RiftsWRX · Apr 14, 2005

Recommendation... the first post should be edited, including all pertaining info. Fee's, times, directions, schedule, etc.

Reference the NASIOC thread for an example.

ALL: I've gotten the emails from Erik with all the mods of the people involved and I'll be emailing you guys shortly to discuss expectations as well as any recommendations I may have.

Matt: Give me a buzz when you got a chance, I wanna talk to you about the concerns you still know I have with your car.

Cheers!
Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

bikerboy · Apr 14, 2005

please review the first posts for updates

DISCOPOPE · Apr 14, 2005

rock on, thanks matt.

RichWRX · Apr 14, 2005

Missouri Is a little too far for me to go, If a spot opens up let me know,I will pay whatever you want

Thanks
Rich
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RiftsWRX

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RichWRX

Is there any way that I might get a tune? let me know if it looks like i wont be able to, so I can look for someone to tune my car for me, I dont want to wait till june and find out that I cant get it done and have to look for someone else to do it.

Thanks
Rich
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Rich,

About the only thing I can say is look at this.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=742559

Before you think the $275 for the dyno day spot is a great deal, bear in mind you're spending approx $160 in gas alone, before the inevitable hotel stay, unless you plan on doing the drives in one day, etc.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com
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Grimm · May 2, 2005

This is fairly close to my freinds shop, and I was wondering if I might stop in and check it out while you guys are tuning?

readymix · May 3, 2005

June 18th isn't coming soon enough.

DISCOPOPE · May 4, 2005

ghaaaaa! i need to install all kinds of stuff...
i hate waiting for parts... !

Dream · May 4, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Grimm

This is fairly close to my freinds shop, and I was wondering if I might stop in and check it out while you guys are tuning?

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Of course!!!!

Dream · May 4, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by readymix_wrx

June 18th isn't coming soon enough.
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LOL, own3d by teh UTEC!!!

readymix · May 4, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dream

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by readymix_wrx

June 18th isn't coming soon enough.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
LOL, own3d by teh UTEC!!!
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YEP! Owned...right through the pants.

Dream · May 4, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by readymix_wrx

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dream

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by readymix_wrx

June 18th isn't coming soon enough.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
LOL, own3d by teh UTEC!!!
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

YEP! Owned...right through the pants.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

lol, it will all be worth it come June 18th

scoobydreamin · May 4, 2005

Is there going to be room for butt-hangers to come watch and learn?

If so maybe we need to plan a gill out for lunch?

Dream · May 4, 2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by scoobydreamin

Is there going to be room for butt-hangers to come watch and learn?

If so maybe we need to plan a gill out for lunch?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Im down to bring a grill and cook some food.

readymix · May 4, 2005

Hell yeah, 'roller party' at RS. I'll bring my own steak.

Grimm · May 4, 2005

If it is still June 18th I think I can make it with a grill.... I will be sure closer to the event.

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