I need help finding my oil leak

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    So my bug eye started leaking oil about 3 months ago, and I'm not sure where its coming from. It seems to be oil pan or maybe between engine and trans. I know there are a few places in the rear of the engine that can leak. Is my only option to pull the engine or trans. To find the leak. Or Does anyone have experience with any of those gaskets leaking and know for sure which one it could be?

    Only mods : 2nd cat removed
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    All performed by pervious owner

    Thanks for any insite.
    Josh
     
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    Without having a picture to work with im going to guess its one of the following: front main seal (crank seal), oil pump seal, or the oil cooler gasket. Could be any or all of these.
     
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    Bugeye is pretty vauge. WRX or RS?
     
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    Its probably the rear access cover and wrist pin o ring. Yes you'll have to drop the trans.
     
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    Is it easier to drop the trans than lift the engine?
    Also if I replace the rear access cover gasket , what else should I replace since I'll have access to the rear of the motor.
    Rear main seal?
     
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    if you are going to be that car into it and have the funds id replace clutch and flywheel n it as well
     
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    Anyone have experience dropping a transmission and want some extra cash? I am good with a wrench and want to learn/ help. So if this peaks any interest pm me

    Thanks
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    I've assisted other people never done it on my own though on my wrx
     
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    Yeah I need a little training with bigger jobs before I get comfortable enough to do it on my own.
     
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    I've been through the proceedure many times on my Wrx so I know all what needs to be done just never did it on my own #becauselazy
     
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    Just curious why you are needing to pull trans?

    In my opinion unless the trans is broken it's easier to pull the motor to get at the clutch, rear seals, etc. And actually, you are disturbing less components, no tugging on axles, dropping exhaust, driveshaft, and so on...
     
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    You see , that's my problem. One guy says, drop the trans and another guy says pull the engine... so confused.:frantic:

    So with all this confusion, is there anyone that would help find the leak and come up with a plan to fix it ?
     
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    I can take a look at the leaking no sweat.

    :)

    Is it a trans leak or an oil leak...i might have missed that.
     
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    It is oil. From what I can see, it looks to be coming from between the engine and transmission.
     
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    When would you be able to give it a look? What are you look at for inspect cost?
    Thanks
    Josh
     
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    checked the oil return line from hte turbo? i had that leak for me
     
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    Ok so I'm having some trouble searching for what gaskets and seals I should replace. I'm going to buy a clutch, timing belt w/ water pump, front and rear main seal, rear access cover and wrist pin oring. Also the oil pan gasket.
    Is there any other gaskets or seals I should get?
     
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    Oil pan does not have a gasket, it's a gasket made from RTV
     
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    OK thanks
     
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    If your pulling the motor to do all this might as well do valve cover gaskets as well.
     
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    I'm going to have @yuseforester take a look. I'll get his opinions on what I should do. I appreciate everyone's comments and ( unlike some people) I'll take then into consideration.
     
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    Oil pan DOES have a gasket. It is just not included in the kit, you have to buy them separate.
     
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    I belive it depends on the year.
     
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    I still prefer a 10 dollar gasket over a glob of silicon.
     
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    I met with @yuseforester yesterday. So he slapped a lot of sense into me and saved me a ton of time and money. :bounce: :bounce::bounce:!

    Long story short, he explained how a valve gasket leak can look like a leak from the rear of the engine. So I'm not going to remove the engine and go gasket crazy...

    I'm going to replace the valve cover gaskets and spark plugs while I'm there. He also talked about my turbo and the under hood temps on the passenger side of the engine.

    Yusef is an awesome guy, learned quite a bit in the 30 min conversation. He understood I am still learning about subaru and offered me help if I need it.
     
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    You can't go wrong if you listen to Yusef.
     
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    Thanks guys, I'm flattered.

    Josh, it was nice to meet you and I think you will be ok with some general maintenance, which is pretty common for the age/mileage/duty cycle of your car.

    The fact that you didn't have any oil on the timing covers is really good! Clean everything up, reseal the valve covers and see what we have left for leaks (if anything). This is the most affordable and sesnisble place to start.

    Let me/us know how it goes!
     
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    It can be really helpful in situations like this to clean all the old sludge off the areas in question (not powerwashing but with a degreasing solution) and then drive for a couple weeks keeping an eye on where the oil seeps start coming back...
     
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    Stock from the factory they all come with a silicon/RTV gasket for the oil pan.
     
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    I will still take a gasket.
     
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    Do they make gaskets? Must felpro or something...didn't even know that.

    Rtv is the way to go imho, just make sure you get the old stuff off without spilling any into the crank case!

    Not that you need to do that Josh, just a general comment on oil pan gaskets I think.
     
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    Yusef, do you make housecalls? I'm in Owatonna...
     
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    I do actually :) however owatonna is a bit of a hike for me. Pm me?