In search of a 2.2 head passenger

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  1. Buddy's sube
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    1999 Impreza. Looking for a relatively low mile complete head. My car has a 104000 miles on it. Looking for around that mileage. Pretty sure it has a bent valve on that side.
    Also does it matter if it’s a manual or auto for my search??? The car is a manual though. I was thinking about taking a chance on this??
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-2001-...:pGwAAOSwYbdcSQ5q:sc:USPSPriority!55906!US!-1
    Anyway it’s my winter beater summer run around car so not looking to spend a ton. Except on head gaskets and head bolts. I’m dumping money into another car so on the old budget.
     

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    If it's just a bent valve, a machine shop can probably fix the head for pretty cheap.

    Don't need to replace head bolts unless they're damaged.
     
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    Ok I thought they could only be stretched once.
    Also I’m in Rochester SE MN. for machining I usually make the drive to the cities. But again trying to make this easier on my pocket. Anyone know of a good shop around this area? And thanks for the reply!
     
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    @Eazy_E_Rich Who do you use for machining?
     
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    Subaru (factory service manual and techs) reuse them after inspection. I replace them if they're visibly damaged (like from a leaky headgasket), if they measure short/long, or if the motor I'm rebuilding is intended to be used for higher boost applications. But I also use copper sealant on head gaskets, which isn't by the book, so your call/use your best judgment. At the very least, remove them by hand, inspect the threads, clear out the holes, chase the threads as needed, etc...

    Re: tty/stretch bolts in general. I'm no expert. My understanding though is that subaru's method of using a sequence of torqueing, loosening, then torquing to an angle, when done correctly, as intended to not stretch the bolt beyond its yield point.

    And agreed with @Chux re: valve and potential valve seat repair.
     
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    I usually run Audi stuff. There’s a place in the cities that’s all he does.
     
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    I’ve only pulled the engine I haven’t had time to break down the motor yet. I was loosing no coolant. I just heard a pop and the head started ticking loud. And running rough. But it’s likely the head gasket did fail because compression was only at 60 on both passenger cylinders .
     
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    I've used Dustin at Southern MN auto supply in Rochester. I've had good luck and fair prices. He decked my heads and tested valves for like $150 or so back when I ran engines with only 4 cylinders.
    For more tricky stuff I go to Dave at Metro Engine services and know several others who do also.
     
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    AutoValue/Motor Supply in Austin has done head work for me several times and a few local friends as well. Never had an issue with them. They are usually pretty busy trying to keep up with the dirt track motor work this time of year, but they might be able to fit you in.
     
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    Oh yeah, how’d i forget about you Joe!? Also, @blackozone is a SEMN’er as well. He may know someone down that way.
     
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    Yes getting the job done quickly is the reason I considered sourcing a different head.
     
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    Dustin at Southern Minnesota can handle all your machining, no problem. Plenty of people in the area know his work, and he's plenty familiar with Subarus.
    For other stuff related to performance engine work, I worked with Corey and some the folks at Baier Engine on the SE side.
     
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    Team SEMN!
     
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    That’s what I’m going to do. I used to buy parts from them all the time for 68 bronco. Thanks all!
     
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    I don’t know subes well. Should I get a new clutch?
     

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    Nothing unique about a Subaru clutch compared to anything else.

    From the pictures, it looks like it's got some meat left. That said, a nice Exedy clutch kit is like $150 on Amazon, and a no-name (mine had Luk stamped all over it...which is a name) ebay one is like $60. If you plan to keep the car for very long, I'd get a new one.
     
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    Are they flywheel bolts reusable??? All the kits I find do not include new flywheel bolts
     
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    Absolutely. I don't think anything in a Subaru is torque to yield.
     
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    Torque to yield lugnuts would be hilarious. Seems like something bmw would so.
     
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    Ok so I’m almost ready to pull the heads. I can see that they r multi layered gaskets and must have been done b4. Driver side had excellent compression. Do I just leave that head on or do I take both off and do both head gaskets?
     
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    Nvm my timing belt is missing teeth. Pretty sure I know what’s next
     
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    This is an interference engine right?? I don’t see any marks on the valves or pistons or valves from a collision.
     
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    Yes it is
     
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    Yes i c some shine on the pistons on the passenger side now.
     
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    It’s on both cylinders. It’s just shiny. No deep gouges. Pistons ok?
     

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    I'd let 'er buck.
     
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    That’s what I thought. Taking heads in today and I ordered my parts. Thanks again for everyone’s help!
     
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    Copper spray head gaskets or not?
     
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    Also having trouble searching for the correct torque sequence for this 2000 Impreza 2.2 liter