For guys like me that have no better than rudimentary computer skills an iphone works pretty well. I have no idea how to jailbreak an iphone or how to root an android phone, and for me personally I can't think of any apps that I'm missing out on. In this case ignorance is bliss...
Sigh, I don't think you understand. Developers have been doing all the crap you just said on the iPhone for a while. My phone does not look anything like a normal iPhone I can customize pretty much anything I want. Anyways it's not THAT big of a deal lol.
per that instruction then. juss sayin' its pathetic that you need to go out of your way to get your phone to a state that isn't remotely like the original ios as you stated you did to yours
No, they haven't. If I wanted to download the entire iPhone iOS operating system to my developer station right now, I couldn't. If I wanted to retool, remove junk, and write new functionality into iOS core, I couldn't. Developers have NOT been doing that on the iPhone. Thanks for playing. Go search for iPhone custom rom. Tell me how many different operating system variants you see for your device. The answer is zero. It's MORE than just making pretty icons and desktops. It's optimizing code, making things run smoother and more efficiently than the OEM could. Removing bloat, adding in functionality. And don't get me started on Apple's ridiculous app vetting. You spend thousands on a mac. You download the iOS SDK and spend hours upon hours developing your application. You submit it to Apple for approval. They mark it unaccepted and you are left going "well, WHY? why isn't it approved?" There isn't a decent set of guidelines. This process of vetting, btw, can take months. Every step of the way, Apple ****s on developers. You are forced to use THEIR compilers and tools. And those are exclusively available to mac OS-X. Yes, there are some ways around this, but it is far from optimal. From having a mac owner friend compile your code, to using crappy Flash developer tools. It's asinine. And you PAY for the privilege to do this. 99 dollars a year for a developer license. You can't just write apps for iOS and stick them on their AppStore. You have to pay for that.
Yeah, the difference is, you don't have to root an android phone to load 3rd party apps or change the interface. If I want a different interface for my phone, I go on the market and download one of the many interface softwares that are available to me for free.
even the same apps from one to another aren't the same, nor are they the same cost. for instance, my buddy and I downloaded a ballistic calculator on our androids for free, the same program for his ipad cost $.99 and has less options and can't store the same amount of data, the ios version also doesn't support email of the data tables nor does it have the ability to sync up with the national weather service for realtime weather. but you're right, you can do anything on an ios system and its just as capable and open as an android.
The reason for that is, the developer of that app likely wrote the initial app without those features. When it came time to add updates to that app, either their iOS developer license had expired so they couldn't upload it and didn't want to pay another 100 dollars to do so. Or they uploaded one update a while ago, and it took Apple a month or two to approve the changes to the app, and they got fed up with having to wait to continue development for the iOS app while they made progress on the Android version and just gave up on the iOS app altogether. Those are the two typical scenarios.
I really wish just once when people debate they didn't have to act like whiney children and at least talk about what the thread is about. It's pretty sad we all know/ have met each other and we act civil, but when you talk about iOS/Android crap people get all butt hurt.
You're one of the ones that constantly brings up this worthless debate, so don't start acting like a victim when you get called out on your crap and people support arguments that debunk your's. do I like iPhones? yeah I think they have a few features I'm jealous of, but I much prefer Android devices, especially since I rooted my phone (I ran stock OSs for well over a year just fine), would I buy an iPhone? not likely seeing as its biggest perk to me was the battery life and smooth operation, but with ICS especially and devices like the new Galaxy and Nexus devices that's a gap that's closed and if anything its equalized completely. Do I hate apple products? Absolutely not, I have owned 4 of their laptops, two of which I still currently use (I've been typing responses on the newer MacBook). Do I think they are the end all, be all, god's greatest gift to mankind? Hell no, and I am tired of the crap that people spew to try and convince me otherwise.
Don't buy the ipad 3...the ipad 4 is coming out in May! It's supposed to be even better than the 3, by small insignificant fractions so i HAVE to get one! I like Apple products, but not enough to camp out a week before the release on the sidewalk like many others or fistfight because someone cut in line. And iScared to buy one of their products knowing that they will try to tempt me with a newer model next week. That being said, I looked at iphones last week and would have grabbed one if i was eligible for a FREE upgrade...but i wasn't. i r haz dumbphone...still. fyi...iTroll.
Like I said, don't get caught. They especially don't like companies or individuals that facilitate that sort of thing. It is actually forbidden by their EULA.
Ask me about Apple next time we're out for chinese. See what happens. Second most evil company that just won't get the f off my radar. Only Facebook tops them.
Actually I don't bring up the debate. I may chime in from time to time. I wouldn't say I was proven wrong but I definitely did not convey what I was saying with the correct terminology. Oh well. At no point did I say "OMG Apple is the best, how do you like Android!" I merely suggested that you could jailbreak your iPad and then noted how I thought jailbreak was similar to making iOS open source. Nobody playing victim here. But you guys are getting pretty worked up over a mobile operating system...
Doubtful. Apple ditched their server segment because nobody was buying them. Facebook is likely run on linux servers.
True, but they still have the dedicated "proprietary" software, targeted at proprietary hardware thing on lockdown. Firmware is nothing new to them. Facebook's architecture is fascinating. It just also happens they're straight-up evil. Like a magnificently engineered gas chamber. It's horrific and you know it, but there is a certain amount of genius there too.
Except jailbreaking has nothing to do with open source. Open Source means the entirety of your software package source code is freely available to other developers to work with. You cannot download Apple's iOS source and use it to develop. They go a step further into closed source by making the software development kit (SDK) only available on Apple OS-X. Meaning, if you even want to write and compile for iOS, you need a mac. Or you hack together a huge mess of software solutions and other assorted crap, and you hope it compiles correctly. And if you don't have a mac to develop on, then you will need jailbroken iOS devices to test, because the iOS virtual machine is also mac only. Once you have gotten together your new mac, and iphone/ipad/ipod, or you have your hacked together development software on Windows or Linux, you can start developing for iOS. Oh, but wait. You have to pay Apple to release the app to the AppStore via a 99 dollar per year developer "license." Once you've shelled out all that time and effort and money, you can submit your app to Apple. If they approve of your app, it goes into the AppStore. If they don't appove, it gets removed. If you need to update or add functionality to your app, submit it for review again. The review process takes weeks to months. Again, if they don't approve...back to the drawing board. If your license expires, your app gets pulled from the AppStore. Cost to develop for Android: General Purpose PC: 500 bucks. Doesn't take much, as long as it can run Ubuntu and has some drive space you're golden Android Device: 100 bucks + monthly rate for a phone, or a tablet with wifi. 200 bucks will get you a 16GB HP Touchpad on eBay. Android SDK: free Cost to upload app to Android market: free Android app approval: no Cost to develop for iOS: Mac Mini: 776 dollars...and you'll need a monitor. I didn't add the apple branded monitor because anyone that pays 1000 for a monitor is a retard. Figure 125 for a decent 20+ inch monitor iOS device: 500. You will want to dev for the iPad, since what you write for it can work on the smaller devices. If you want it to work with 3G connectivity, you'll need the 3G model. Add money for that iOS SDK: free Cost to upload app to AppStore: 99 dollars per year. Apple App approval: yes.
yeah, there's that too. If the app doesn't sell, you still paid 99 dollars for it to be there. If you price the app at 99 cents, you are going to need to sell at least 120 units to break even on the developer license.
Your math doesn't account for Apple taking 30% of the app purchase price. So, my math is also wrong. 150 units.
coming from the guy who has more apple product in his house than me I love my iphone... I jailbroke it.. it does what I need it to do... its a phone... and Dream can send me nudey pics and with a pinch of 2 fingers I can finally figure out what that extra belly button thing really is...
