January 25th Moderator meeting summary.

i guess?

 

i could care less if you think im a ass. maybe it will sink in your thick skull to stop when people point it out. im not the first..

 

ok i thought you were referring to me on this....i retract my jackass statement and other statements.

you are still a cocky bunghole:yumyum:. lucky for you i love bunghole though

 

you better...

 

:laugh: uh huh

 

personally I dont think so.... I dont give a poop who they are... only the ones who give me warnings etc do I get intimate with... ha ha

seriously... Hate to say it Bro, you are one of the few guys that have an issue with this... I say just care less about it and more about what you are doing in your own life/business... that is gonna give you more reward thenthis site

personally I like Russ and Bikerboy being in the background... they have wisdom and maturity to stay out of all the silly crap on here (lets not dig up the past)... and have handled the transition with allowing the mods to have at it more, in a good way.... I would go to those guys 99% of the time before asking on this forum, besides a few guys whom I have come to respect....

Looking forward to the meeting, hope to make it, and to also be more active in PERSON in the future...

I would never make a mod position cause i like to play too much... but that's ok cause they have good people on the job... therefore I aint to concerned like others are on here, and the ones that are can just go mod on teh other forum anyways.....

moving on.. I suggest this site does too....

 

amen brotha!

 

Alex.. seriously..... I aint gonna call you any names..(ok one... see below) after all its you that has to wake in the morning and look at yourself the mirror... You have earned zero respect on this site, cause from the start you were like a leech sucking jason's arse, kissing the ground he walked on, you tried to wear the shoes that only jason can walk in (smartass king, but good bloke) and all you succeeded in doing is looking silly... now you come on here trying to dig up stuff that you really dont know crap about, never dealt with, dont have the balls to say to anyones face, and still you do it... the last 20 posts you have made only 2 have been normal and that was trying to sell a turbo that you wanted to use on a buick or whatever...

Stop trying to be cool.... be yourself... maybe then people will give a little more respect when you start showing that you wear your own pants, shoes, socks, undies and even think for yourself....

if not.... someone ban his arse.... seeing that he hates this place and the leaders sooo much!!!

all the other guys... lets put the past behind... I like what jason said.. he is too old for this crap... move forward... yes there has been a LOOOOOOOT of wheelspinning and in-action... but hell... look wat they have had to work with.. half the club divided because of who's bed they slept in... the other half have no idea who's who... yada yada yada...

usully the loudest squeek gets teh most oil... but to me the one who doesnt react (ie: whine, coplpain, bitch yada yada) gets my respect....

I think both sides of the previous split, NEED to grow the &^*&^%$^%*&^&*^%&%$^&%^&%^&$^%^ up.... at least come together, agree on some things and move the club forward... if half the effort was put into that as is putting into pointing fingers at each other we would rule the intranet world... but alas some have a bug up there arse about the past, others have their thumbs stuck up there arses and some others well... I aint going to what they may have stuck where.. (Ray/Fong) anyhooos....

joel thanks for the transparancy about the get together with the honchos.. have we forgotten that if Joel hadn't spoken up then we wouldnt have know anyways... its good to know that somethign is kinda happening..

as far as the cards... personally i think they are a good idea, but really only give an advantage for the guys using the dealership for parts... (personally i use Napa or the like) and I think the club shoul make a buck or two of them... ehck most would save that back on their first purchase... no different then gettting a Sams club membership.. you pay to save

 

hallelujah!

 

Let's all take a moment, and read through Alex's 1700 posts, and see what he's had to contribute to the site in his time here. then add him to your ignore list.


We chose the location, like mlgez said, because that's the only neutral location big enough to house the group and the events that we would like to host that has offered. Grimmspeed is close, but we all know that if it happened there, Justin would just beg for money. not to mention alienate a different crowd, and in that crowd are many of the people planning the event. Justin, if you want an event there, MAKE IT HAPPEN. we can't please everyone....but Todd won't bite. he's a nice guy, and doesn't hold grudges (apparently not the case for everyone).


as for the people involved. it's been said, it's a public as public can be. ALL the moderators are listed on the forum groups link at the bottom of the forum index. Steve and Russ help with the admin stuff, and bikerboy was invited to help, since he has the connections and knowhow to help this club proceed, and wants nothing but the best.


Jason, If you're so dissapointed with how little has happened in your time here, STEP UP TO THE PLATE!!!! since you obviously cannot relate to having a job, bills, commitments, etc. you must have ooodles of time to donate to the club. Take your own advice, Put your money where your mouth is, open your checkbook/date book, or shut your mouth.

I was very hesitant to accept the mod position I was offered, as I have so little time to offer lately, but I want nothing but the best for this club, and am willing to donate every cent and second I have to spare (what little that is in either category) to making this more than just a web forum.


The reason this club has so much trouble getting anywhere, is every time anyone suggests a change, or a major step, it just turns into a bitch fest.....

Everyone at the meeting (well....being a n00bie....I didn't feel like I had as much to contribute...) had great ideas, and the connections and knowhow to follow through on them. the limiting factor is time. if the member base here would just trust those that are doing what they can, and SUPPORT THEM, we could move forward in leaps and bounds. But step one in that is to drop any grudges, and it's more than apparent that that's just not possible in many cases.


So can we turn this into a constructive thread? with comments like "Let's make it happen!" and "What can I do to help?" and "We should do x, I'll go start a Gauging Interest thread" and "What if, instead of x, we try x".

 

If you go re-read jason's post you would know exactly what he meant, people have offered to help the admin team, but get brushed away with the general idea "we can handle it" and nothing happens, I agree 100% with someone taking the initiative to get the ball rolling but they get ignored. You were at the last meeting (i think), they never said they needed help (which they obviously do).

Here, i'll start a contstructive part of the thread, russ comes in and tells us what needs to be done and someone offers to help in whatever way they can, then someone else offers and so on and so forth, and before you know it **** gets done.

 

this thread is a perfect example of what the problem is.

 

where the hell are you even getting this crap from? beg for money? me begging to have some event or something at grimmspeed and being butt hurt about it? i can almost guarantee you i have spent WAY WAY more of my time helping this come become bigger/better than you ever have.

please chux, please tell me where you are getting this because it is absolute bs.

i definitely agree with you jason, i've never seem a leadership team do so little and blame so many of their inactions on other people its just insane. the only people that have stepped up in this club and acted like real leaders producing results have been a few of the regular members that have spent countless hours planning events, making tshirts, having get togethers at their homes, etc.

still waiting for some answers to jasons questions in his last post....

 

hahah, there you go again, blaming other people for the lack of action.
(i'm assuming you meant people whining about stuff or something)

i'm gonna tell you right now if stuff actually got accomplished year after year i would be quiet. you want to shut me up?....start producing results. period.


seriously...do SOMETHING, anything, stop griping about how you dont have time blah blah and how other people are stopping you. this stagnation has been going on for FAR to long.

 

Sorry if my enthusiasm for rally is inapproriate for a Subaru club.

Mark Utecht

 

Jesus, you guys are all so ANGRY!

Being new to the forum (signed up this last summer), just please do me a favor and everyone chill for a bit.

Justin and Jason, you guys want stuff to get done, and that's great. I'm with both of you, but you guys do need to drop the assaults on people. Whether you acknowledge it or not you both have quite a bit of sway on this site. If you don't have the time personally to help arrange stuff, delegate it out. Mixx has enough fanboys alone, he should be able to get at least a couple of cronies to help. Myself included. Yes, I'm fing serious like the internet.

As stated previously, I'm new to the forum. So here are my questions that I have:

1) Who is in charge of making these changes happen (LLC, ID cards, etc)? I would like to know who to contact to assist.

2) Moderators: Are you guys the ones trying to organize the elected officials also? At this point, it would seem like you guys would benefit from the help with club matters so you can focus on site issues.

OK, so there's only 2 questions... Still, from the events I've been to, Bikerboy and Mr. Grimm were the main organizers that I saw. So my suggestion for you boys rolls like this: Find what needs to be accomplished, and call out for help from other members on the board. This might help some of the more ambitious new guys lend a hand and get involved very quickly.

I love the community feeling of the site, and I prefer it because it's all local-ish. I also want to see it become something more. Maybe if we can all set a goal to reach, more of us can start to aim in the same direction instead of at each other.

 

what changes need to be done? and why? i just don't get why its even a big deal still? i get how when some one says that they are going to do something and don't, is kind of sucks. but other then the front page witch i skip to get in the forums, this forum is the same as every other one with the same problems in the forum like dumb comments and lack of the search button use. like i said before why does any of this matter? everything is easy to use on the site and it works. it just seems like problems for no reason and held grudges.

 

Fobiolo,

From what I've read so far the changes that people want to make are more for developing a legitimate car club from an online message board. We have more than enough people, but the organization isn't there yet. There was a discussion on here earlier about where members would like to take it. I think the site is probably going to continue on its same path, but the club development to organize is the current growing pain (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

 

thanks for the clarification. aren't we a club already? or are we just a un official organization that meets up and hangs out together?

 

Right now, it seems, we are the latter.

 

bummer....

 

You are putting a lot of words in my mouth for a one sentence post.

 

that reminds me, you were spotted last summer by an MNSBR guy

http://www.mnsportbikeriders.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16200&st=225

 

Would somebody please think on the children!

No in all honesty I really enjoy the friends that I have made on this site, and I throughly enjoy this site for the most part. I like Lee am a fairly new member but I see where some problems arise.

 

Justin, I have to agree with you. Moderating should only be 50-75% of our duties and I welcome the day when this can happen. I can tell you first hand if I didn't spend so much time babysitting, correcting posts, and breaking up the fights that some of the 12 year old members create...then I'd have more time to actually plan or become a true leader.

IMHO I believe us Mods have created this mess to some extent. Instead of just banning people we actually try (try) to be civil and just warn people or send them an infraction.

So...maybe we should just clean with club of the messy members by having a big ban party....then us mods can actually focus on club issues.

 

your jobs as moderators are to mod the website, you are doing just fine at that, thats IMHO, it shouldnt be your job change anything else, thats the ADMIN's job.

 

thx, but its a team approach. We cannot expect just one or two people to get everything done.

 

i meant to say the admin team

 

From what I've gathered the last few weeks, we don't really have an "Admin team". I believe it is 1-2 people.

 

yes, there's couple admins and finally a number of mods. At this time the site/club is structured where the mods are starting to get involved in the event planning, etc....

Let's get this back on track and have a positive and constructive conversation. I don't want to see anymore finger pointing about past issues.

We are NOW making every attempt to change this online community to a recognized regional club. If any member has anything more to add to this thread make sure its POSITIVE.

thank you

 

With that said, would it be a possibility that someone from the moderator team post up what sort of tasks are needing to be accomplished? Members could volunteer to help take care of some of the steps needed and provide assistance. I think this could help you guys out, and would probably expedite the process of whatever you're trying to accomplish.

 

Last edited by blackozone : Today at 05:08 PM. Reason: Scuba Steve can't spell.

LOL...you're funny.

Yes, I can work on that

 

Thanks!:biggrin:

 

.... I don't know what to say...but... just something.

We all want this to be a club, great! Thing is, no one really steps up to the plate. boo.
Who's the brave one??? Well.... We all like Subarus, we all want to learn about them, we all want to drive. great!

I will be setting up the agenda for our next meet. I know not everyone likes rally stuff, some like tarmac stuff, some like frumrols? I personally like tarmac stuff.... if you got questions, ask me! I'll be volunteering my car for viewing and questioning. What topics to talk about, I'll think of stuff for you. Want to talk about gear ratios??? Different types of LSDs?? Traction circle??? I know there are a few people who know their stuff...but they are afraid of getting crapped on etc.

I am willing to share my experiences, but at the same time I don't want to be used and abused and cheated on and not get credit for what I did. I've put a lot of time and $$ into my car.

I'll set it up like a class at the best of my knowledge if you want. We all want to learn about car stuff, right??? I'll be setting the agenda, if it doesn't work this time, gimme suggestings and I'll write it down. I always am trying new things.

 

Glad to see that you joined in on this Fuji, But this comment HAS TO GO!!!

Way overused in this thread alone, and it's total BS! There have been way too many people that have offered help. They don't get any jobs/tasks to complete.

If none of the Mods/Admins ask for help, they aren't going to get any. PERIOD.

 

I agree. We need to do a better job of dividing up the work we want to get done. I think us moderators should focus less on doing the work ourselves and more on managing/helping other people do the work.

I think Scuba Steve already mentioned it, but we'll try to get a task list up soon that people can help with.

 

sorry if I haven't really been paying attention on offers from other members. I wasn't really focused on what's been happening with the club until later last year.

I have been around for a LONG TIME and I haven't seen much happen. I DO want to see things happen more. I've started a few technical threads, but I don't think many understand what I'm saying.... (LSD, tranny gearing, etc).

If things fall through, you ALL will get the oppertunity to view my little wagon and ask questions on things. Learning is what most want to do so I'm offering this at our next meet. In the future, I'll think of other topics to discuss at the meet, may it be car tech or driving experience. Who ELSE wants to volunteer their car for viewing and questioning???

This is a risk for me because everyone who does come will know what I have. Lets not have this be a time to start shopping.