My new addition from Streichers...(Firearm owners, post up your pics inside)

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    ^^^^:yumyum: nice! if/when you get rid of the EOTech lemme know.

    Yep I got a couple hundred rounds through saturday and in my very non professional opinion I'd say its the same but smaller:biggrin: Really I was mostly there to try it out and have some fun but I will say that I feel like I shoot as good or better with the sc it may be the big white factory sights which I prefer over the night sights I have on the xdm or just new gun luck. I dunno. I went with this one simply cause the ergonomics are the same as my xdm so shooting it feels natural for me. Back to back with the subcompact and Katies 38 it definately has some snap to it but still easy to remain on target. With her revolver, forget it that thing impossible to hit anything but center mass.(which is fine but not fun when you take your time and still can't hit smaller targets) You'll have to give it a try next time we get a group together and form an opinion for yourself.

    That being said if anyone ever wants to go to Bills in circle pines post it here I'm right down the road and would likely go.
     
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    Martin- I completely understand what you're talking about. We call it a stove pipe if the brass stays pinched, halfway off the feed rails. If its still facing forward and not even turning outward its a straight failure to extract, failure to feed. We almost always attributed to a dirty weapon. In a weapon that has been around the block a few times, a new extractor spring is usually the ticket.

    I'd imagine you've already checked (Considering the nearly unhealthy knowledge of firearms that you have), but what ammunition are you using? Two thoughts on that front come to mind:

    What you're describing reminds me of the time I watched NATO 5.56 fired from an AR chambered for .223. I dont see you making this mistake, and dont think I need to elaborate; but for those that dont know: NATO 5.56 is designed with a slightly thicker shell casing. Extractor arms will grab, and pull, but it IS enough to slow down even rounds with high grain counts. That brings me to the next idea:

    Rounds with a low grain count? example: cheap, or foreign ball rounds. Anything over 39gr should be more than sufficient. Thats really low in the first place. I dont see you making a mistake like this. Again, doubt its the problem.

    This last one, I really hope isn't the problem: Pinched impingement tube. I apologize - I should know the exact term for it, but I dont. Back on track. I've seen it. It causes what you describe, EVERY single round. I still dont know how the kid did it, but something managed to get between the handguards, through the holes in the picatinny rail, and crush the gas tube.

    I'm tired and out of ideas. I'm also probably wasting my breath, because I bet you've already checked over the ammo, and the pinched rail crap would be an easy spot.

    If you'd like, I can ask the armorers here for you, I've got them on speed dial. Might save you a few bucks, or time bringing it in. If you just want to get new parts, which would be me, try out the Wolf extra power extractor springs. We only use replacement parts, but I've heard nothing but good things.
     
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    Got a new one on thanksgiving. A little spendy for a .22 but it was on sale at a decent price so why not. Its a Remington 597 VTR. Not really based on an ar but its got similar ergonomics, I'll give my thought on it after I get to the range.
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    Nice find Ben!

    Did you get that one at the Gander Mountain in Maple Grove? I remember seeing one of those there.
     
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    I actually got it at Gander Mountain in Blaine. I knew I was gonna get a .22 at some point and happened to see this one in the thanksgiving ad and went for it. I think its kinda neat.
     
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    Thanks for the input Jack. You are right on a couple of things. I have checked over the ammo I was using. I tried a variety of ammo all of which was new production from reputable manufacturers. I also checked the possibility of a bent gas tube, as it is possible to tweak or bend the end of the gas tube while cleaning in a way so that it no longer seals properly against the bolt carrier.

    Here is what I have gathered. The gun will randomly stove pipe shells independent from ammunition type, magazines, temperature, and other factors. The stove pipes stick out of the breech at a 90* angle. The shell is extracted from the chamber every single time the bolt cycles. as such I do not see the extractor or extractor spring being an issue. However it seems like the ejector is not consistently putting the spent casing out far/fast enough to clear the bolt as it returns to feed the next round. This has me thinking that it is a bad ejector or ejector spring.

    I started to take the ejector out of the bolt, however I do not have a 1/16" punch laying around to get the tiny roll pin out. I am thinking that either a very good cleaning of the ejector assembly or replacing the ejector & spring will resolve my problem. I have not taken he ejector out since I got it, and it is very likely that some goo or brass shavings have become lodged in there.

    On another note, me dad just picked up a XDsc .40 for a carry gun. I was very surprised and pleased at how well the sights came up, near perfect every time. I will try and bring it to the next range day.
     
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    Got the 590 home last night. Upon further inspection it looks like it's not an A1 model. I've got the metal trigger group and safety and a heavy wall 20in barrel on order to complete the conversion. I'm deciding right now between a Knoxx SpecOps or a Compstock, depending on whether I want a pistol grip or a conventional setup.
     
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    ^^^^^
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    I had to do it.
     
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    I had a chance to take some updated pics of the rifle tonight. I had the Mossberg elsewhere, so shots of that will have to come later.

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    The view through the EOTech:
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    The EOTech cowitnesses with the backup sights:
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    Remington 870 Police Magnum and Lewis Machine Tool MRP CQB:
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    Closeup of the Surefire X400 light/laser:
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    ^ fancy looking gun!

    I just put a new ejector & spring into my bolt. I am going to try to get out to the range sometime soon to see if that fixed my problem.
     
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    I'd be willing to bet that'll do it. Have you looked into a D-Fender ring? That may help as well.
     
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    Brian- what can I say:yumyum::yumyum::yumyum:

    Martin- Don't know what mags your dad got with the subcompact but these are really nice for the smaller flush ones(if he hasn't already checked into them) http://www.pearcegrip.com/springxd.htm
     
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    He just got 3 factory mags. 2 extendeds and 1 small one I believe. I found that when handling the gun with the small mag, there is 0 room for my pinky finger. I did find that if you used your middle finger on the trigger and put your index along the slide it felt very natural. Also holding it in the manner made it point exactly where you were pointing your index finger. Just a thought.
     
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    Got out to the range today with the AR. I had 1 stove pipe in the 1st 20rnd, 1 in the 2nd set of 20 and the third set of 20 had no issues. I only had 60 rounds so I couldnt test more, and my hand were frozen.

    I think this may work out, I will need to put a boat load of rounds through it next time we go to Bills to make sure though.
     
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    I will be home on the 23rd through the 7th of january if anyone wants to shoot some stuff. I have a few things going on, a wedding, etc, but it should be easy to make it out to the range.
     
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    What my sight looks like when I'm playing COD :)
     
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    My shot guns.
    Top one is a browning bps 20g Bottom one is a benelli supernova pump pistol grip and ghost sights
     
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    Yeah, they used the same sight for the Marine M4 Grenadier in COD: Modern Warfare. I like it because I'm already used to that sight picture. The Aimpoints on the SAS M4 are great, but I think I prefer the EOTech.

    Nate, those are some nice looking shotguns. How do you like the Benelli?
     
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    Thanks brian, the benelli is awesome light compact. I like to use it for grouse hunting because I hurt my wrist and the pistol grip is a million times more comfortable to shoot.
     
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    FYI if anyone needs a reason to get out I'm going to Bills(circle pines) tomorrow morning @ 10 am. And after Brians link I may or may not bring the XDm:eek3: I'm really going to try the 597 but with bring the xdsc 40 and maybe the mossberg 500 as well.
     
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    Yikes. I think that the speculation that they have over there is right. That the gun fired out of battery which is strange. Since the XDms have a safety so that it wont fire out of battery. I had a flared piece of brass feed into mine, so that it would almost but just not quite close the chamber. The gun would not let me pull the trigger. Took me a while to figure it out since I thought it was in battery. That casing was a pain to get out of the chamber too as it got wedged in when the slide came forward.
     
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    my XD-40 sub compact.
    sorry or the iphone pic.
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    took petrakov08 out for his first time
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    ^^^^Looks like fun.

    I'm happy to report that I went to Bill's sunday morning and neither the XD or XDm exploded in any other way than straight out the barrel. I also tried the 597 for the first time and put 200 flawless rounds through it.
     
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    ^^ nice pistol, I have the same one just in bi-tone.
     
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    I found a place to get a Remington 870 Police Magnum, but they arent exactly cheap. Depending on how much cash I dont have after x-mas I might pick one up.
     
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    I'm considering picking up a .22 semi-auto handgun for target shooting. I've been reading a bunch and searching and as far as I know, it has come down to the buck mark and the mark III. Any suggestions guys? Also, since I now live in Burnsville, next time you guys go shooting send me a pm!
     
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    Kelly, Both are great .22 handguns. I do not feel that you would be wrong going either way. My dad had a Mark II and liked it but ended up trading it in for a buckmark. He is very happy with the buckmark. Just an FYI, both guns are supposedly difficult to disassemble. that is supposed to be true of most .22s though. Let us know what you decide on.
     
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    Thanks Martin!
    I'm not sure what I want to do. Right now it's between a wii + wiifit and a handgun. Kinda opposites if you ask me but both will be fun. Unfortunately, I think I'm leaning more towards the wii because it will be something I'll use more. But the .22 will be next :)
     
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    Yeah most .22 are difficult to disassemble. I have a Walther P22 easy to disassemble but I wouldn't consider it a "target" .22.
     
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    The Buckmarks and the Rugers are both fairly tricky to take down, but not impossible. They don't require it very often, though. The Beretta Neos is another one to take a look at. I like the Ruger 22/45 myself, the target guns are fun but I like the 1911 grip angle. Another solid bet would be a Sig Mosquito, from what I've heard they've got the bugs worked out of the early release versions. It's a 90% scale Sig 226.

    Or you could go baller and get a 1911 with a conversion kit or a Sig Sauer with the .22LR conversion. Then you have a pistol that you can run a larger caliber (9mm, .357SIG, .40S&W, .45ACP) and then switch to .22LR. I was looking at a Kimber or Ciener kit for my Kimber TLE but found a used Rimfire Target for just a little bit more than a kit, so I was able to have a full size 1911 chambered in .22LR.
     
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    Yeah, you do have to make point of it to get out to the range. But I have been happy now that we are trying to have a Subaru range outing roughly every month or two. For the price of a Wii game you could have like 1500 rounds of .22lr. ;-)

    I was looking at a Buckmark heavily a couple months ago. I do intend to still get one, but now a 12ga has risen on the priorities.
     
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    My newest edition. Xmas present to myself

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    Rexwagon, what is that? It looks like a Hi-Point but I'm not sure.

    I'll be heading to Bills's in Robbinsdale tonight around 6:30-7ish if anyone would like to join me.
     
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    Yeah its a Hi Point 9mm carbine

    My new plinking rifle
     
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    My friend Nick has one of those. He has it in an ATI(I believe) stock that looks like the berretta storm. He put a cheaper red dot on it and it shoots really nicely.

    I think I may be going to Bill's tonight as well, but we are going to circle pines. No pics but I did pick up my first holster. We've got carry class on saturday;)
     
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    Awesome Ben!

    Who's your instructor? We may hit Circle Pines tonight, I want to get the rifle dialed in for distance. What holster did you go with?
     
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    Don't remember the instructors off hand. Its at a gander mtn in Baxter, Katies father lives up there so we are doing it while visiting him for the weekend.

    The holster is a IWB (crossbreed supertuck) It seemed to be the popular one on the XD forums so I'll gave it a try. I've heard of many people ending up with a box of different ones. You have any recommendations?
     
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    I've heard great things about the Crossbreeds. I'm currently running a Blackhawk Serpa for both my Sig and my Kimber, but I'm looking at a local guy around here, Side Guard Holsters. I am going to be ordering a Phantom from Raven Concealment. They've been very highly recommended and look to be a great holster choice, and the price on them isn't bad either.

    www.ravenconcealment.com

    www.sideguardholsters.com
     
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    Ben, how was your range night?

    We ended up at Robbinsdale for a couple of hours and got some good shooting in. I had a chance to try out the new muzzle brake/flash hider. I never imagined that something that small could make such a big difference in the way the gun handles under recoil. A 5.56 doesn't have much recoil to begin with, but this cut the felt recoil way, way down. It almost feels like my 10/22. The bigger difference is how steady the barrel stays under recoil, it just doesn't move. Follow up shots are much easier to make under rapid fire.

    The only downside is that if you're standing on either side of the gun it's a bit abusive, to say the least. I let my friend Todd shoot while I was in the lane over, and you could feel the concussion. Still, a very worthwhile mod to the rifle. If you've got the cash, I highly recommend looking into one of these. I posted the link on the last page for the model I'm using.
     
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    ^^^I will most definately look into it when I finally(its been a year now)get an upper for the rock river lower sitting lonely in the bottom of the safe.

    As for the range....I didn't happen. Katie had to work late and she was the one who wanted to get a few rounds in before class. Do you remember what the shooting portion of your class included? No matter how many times I remind her its not a marksmanship class she is still sweating this part of it.
     
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    It's really not bad at all.

    IIRC the farthest out you shoot is 21 feet and you've got a minute to do five shots and reload, then another 5 shots. The shooting portion of the test was extremely easy. She'll do fine :)

    Who's your instructor for the class? Do you know how many other people you'll be doing the course with?

    You'll probably have to get a RRA upper, I've heard their lowers can be a pain with non-RRA uppers because of tolerance issues. When are you getting yours? Bills does have a special going right now on the 5.7mm uppers. 50 rounds per mag and ammo prices are similar, you just don't get the long distance punch that you would with a dedicated rifle round. My next rifle is going to be in .45-70, and after that a .308. I am also debating a new barrel/bolt for my LMT that would let me run 6.8SPC.
     
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    Heres the instructors/class we're taking. Its the class Katies father took. I don't know much more than that as it was a christmas gift so I did'nt actually set it up. I know ther is gonna be five of us in our group of family/friends taking it.
    http://gunguysusa.com/index.cfm/pageid/1

    As far as the upper I planned on a complete RRA rifle and am not in a real hurry(I've got the DPMS) although that 5.7 mm is intriguing. My father in law has got me really wanting to save my pennies for an M1-A/carbine/garand(maybe all of them:yumyum:) I've never been a big history person but can't help but to be drawn into it after handling these rifles, they just sorta feel special. It's amazing just a year ago KT was hiding my bb guns from me and now we've got a small but growing arsenal at home....I love it.