my rally project

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    There's no turning back now pal, its all or nothing!!! What did you come up with for an inside camera to help catch some of the action, did I miss this topic? I'll have to stopby again something to get a second look at the updated.
     
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    so do you have grab bars on the roof rails...

























    you know for hanging out the window taking pics of YO-self
     
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    Yes, that's what I understand too. Didn't notice what side it was on in the pic, just that it was mounted in front of the seat.

     
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    Passenger side should be fine. Thats where CPD1 + 2 have their mounted in the cool Prodrive CF floor tray with built in straps.
     
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    This thing was dead sexy in the snow today.
     
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    and slow. i could not for the life of me figure out that south section. i could get pieces of it but not the whole thing. the north section was ok but man, i got owned by that pin turn and sweeper
     
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    Yeah, that was tricky though, once I thought I had it figured out I'd screw it up on the next run. If they'd let us, I'd still be there practicing that section.

    Josh had the e-brake technique working great, I think if you were able to use yours it woulda helped with the rotation.

    It was cool to see your car in action though.
     
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    a big part of the problem was my tires tend to just understeer and it's easy to lose all feel of were they are (andrew can attest to this). so I'd come in hard, try to get the weight to transfer - when i was super aggressive it would actually come around but then I'd lose the tires, all of a sudden they'd bite and I'd end up outside the cones. I'd like to try a similar course with my ws50's on instead
     
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    Safety wire does miracles.
     
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    Yeah, that was hard to get through. The few times I did nail it....it was memorable for sure!!! I won't forget it anytime soon that's for sure


    zip ties, zip ties, zip ties
     
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    A WRC car has more zip ties than you can imagine. They even zip tie the fuel pump inside the tank.
     
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    quick release indeed
     
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    got a truck - 97 k2500, 6.5L turbo diesel

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    added a cobra suzuka s and moved the imola s to the passengers side (hope you fit in it dave)
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    made a bracket to hold my HID ballasts and relays for the hella 4000 and 700's. still have to wire them up. the 4000's should have ok cutoff, I kind of doubt the 700's will have any cutoff. I'll probably have to make a secondary reflector I can adjust to focus them.
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    Nice. I love to make home-made brackets. Its amazing what you can do with an angle grinder, bench vice, and BFH.


    I want a brake-press. After the Bridgeport and tig welder of course.
     
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    Oh, and what kind of relays are those? I used a similar one under the hood for my radiator fans and it rusted to hell internally in about six months.
     
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    my tools today were sawzall, drill press and mig welder. still need to buy an angle grinder - between a couple of dremel tools and a bench grinder I haven't needed one really. a bridgeport and lathe would be awesome to have
     
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    the ones that came with the hella lights originally.
     
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    Good choice on the diesel truck. Are you getting a trailer too?

    Cutoff doesn't figure in with driving lights, they just don't have one. It's all about pattern.

     
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    Bridgeports seems to hold their value really well. Nobody wants to give them away. And a rotary table with indexing would be mint, and would reduce the need for a lathe drastically.


    I still need a drill press for my garage. I am lacking in space though. Maybe if I find somewhere else for the three extra motors....





    The relay I used wasn't weather rated, and I'd imagine the ones that came in the Hella kit would be.
     
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    yea cutoff was the wrong word choice - i mean how well they focus the light down the road

    i'll get a trailer when the opportunity presents itself (ie, good craigslist find). until then, uhaul isn't very expensive lol
     
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    yea these are the same relays that i've been using for the past year so they should be ok

    there was some talk at my work of eliminating the small machine shop that's attached off our production floor - I wonder if I could buy that bridgeport if they do... (kinda hope they don't, too many other people trying to get work done in the main shop, it'd be hard to get little projects done)
     
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    From what I've found, it's pretty hard to get into a bridgeport for under $3k. Sure you can get no-name units for less, but the bridgeport is the standard and parts will always be more than available.



    What is crazy is the amount of mill tools your can get on craigslist for dirt. Lots of people sell boxes of it from estate sales for nothing.
     
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    Fantastic build. I gotta see this car in person sometime! I hope you come to the car meets.

    Just out of curiosity, do you have any trouble insuring this car. I would doubt my insurer will insure a car like this as it's almost purpose built (that is in fact if they ever saw it).
     
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    I come to a lot of events, although not to firestone as much. I'm sure you'll see the car at some point


    the car is insured - rally america requires it.
     
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    I'm squeezing my (fat) ass in that seat for a ride at the ice races!
     
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    awesome, i want to see pics of the HID aux lights.

    bully dog the diesel...
     
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    Good lookin truck, I hope it's more dependable than my Chevy 6.5 TurboDiesel.
     
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    No, the U-Haul trailers are a very nice deal, but not a lot of the sites actually have trailers in stock. There were only a couple in the cities that even had a car dolly in when I was looking this summer.
     
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    There are a couple things like that.

    The old bridgeport, a southbend or leblond toolroom lathe, a surface grinder of basically any vintage (though dewall's are quite nice)...

    With a well equipped bridgeport (or good clone) and a well equipped manual lathe, along with some patience, you can make damn near anything. And they last forever. :)


    I'm gunna score the tools out of my old high school when they build a new one, even if it means utilizing a blacked out box van and shirt ninjas.
     
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    if brian decides not to bring his car you can use my dads car trailer carl. It will be in plymouth
     
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    Yes. This. I'm not totally up on all the clones, but I see the Bridgeports everywhere, so I keep it at that. If there are other options, I'll be open to them in three semesters.



    I just want an idexable rotary table. With that, I feel that I can do damn near anything. Short of a 5 axis cnc of course, as I won't have $100k laying around....
     
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    "fixed" front bumper
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    Andrew and I needed to mount my terratrip so we went off to the camera store, bought a bar clamp for studio lighting as the base. Then we bent up some brackets.

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    tomorrow I need to wire it up, add some D rings in the trunk for my spare tire tie downs and put the exhaust back on
     
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    Thats one nice race car Carl
     
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    lol, love the "fixed bumper" and still in love with the cage.
     
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    Did a road rally (Lucas Flamethrower - part of the Arrowhead Sports Car Club winter rally series) last night with Dave (scuba_steve) - it was definitely an interesting experience! At first it was information overload but after we got going and figured out the instructions and how to properly use our terratrip it was a lot of fun.

    Was linking a few corners and came out a bit hot for how wide the road was - so I decided to make it a bit wider lol. luckily the warm weather made the banks slushy so we didn't get stuck even having half the car "off"
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    newb question whats the terratrip do?
     
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    basically a very precise odometer with some other related features (time, speed). route instructions are associated with a mileage and you use the terratrip to tell when you're at a given instruction
     
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    I see, cool thanks.
     
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    Yeah carl that was sure a ton of fun. I'm already looking forward to the next one. :biggrin:

    But these just make me jones harder for the "real" season to start!!!:woot:
     
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    thats awesome that you guys are able to get some seat time together! get some kinks worked out!
     
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    So it helps you make sure the course instrutions are right for the where your at on the course. right?
     
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    Essentially. Each instruction in the routebook is marked with a milage in 1/100 of a mile from the stage start checkpoint, and by using the ODO you can keep track of where you are.

    Some navigators work almost entirely off the incremental milage between the instructions, while some use the overall. Both have pluses and minuses.

    When running on stage notes, the ODO is a lot less important as long as things are going well, but can be critical to get back on if the codriver gets lost in the notes.

    In a TSD rally it's critical to know how far you've gone and in what period of time, as the goal (typically) is to reach the next checkpoint as close as possible to a pre-determined time, based on the speeds you've been given.
     
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    oh yea, same here - can't wait to hit the stages! don't forget to get your RA license this week!
    it was a very good practice run for us. Figuring out how to use that damned terratrip was good too.
    Mark pretty much covered it below
     
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    Another key point of the rally odo is you can recalibrate its mileage output to match the odo that the course instructions are made from. Every car and tire rolling diameter will give you a different measurement for a distance on an odometer. Having the ability to run a odometer check at the start of an event and then change your rally odo so your mileages to match the instructions is huge.

    Amy
     
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    very huge. we did not do this for the TSD and by mile 10 of each leg we were off by approximately .05 miles....which wasn't a huge for this last event.

    I used the terratrips interval distance reset feature at each marker...which was anywhere between .3 to 2.25 miles during the road rally...and that kept us on track with pretty good accuracy.

    I was just as suprised as carl that we did pretty darn well on most legs. some of them we were only 2-4 seconds off the official time!!!