Yeah, except he's ignoring all the advice given to him by actual WOMEN who have been in the same postion his little interest is in. Not very smart, if you ask me.
All the advice will go down the drain if he doesn't have first hand experience. He'll just get nervous and forget all of it and do smth stupid Experience is key.
if it really gets to the point where you think you might need advise... its most likely not ment to be. she said the "only reason" was that she just got out of one could be totally made up. if youve been friends with her for a while your already done for in the end. if she had already. if i were you, id just keep up the friendship cuz thats something you shouldnt throw away. there is a reason why you must like her. she must be cool. there are LOTs of other girls. date around and be cool about it. the most fun part about being single is the fact that you can meet new people. but you asking advise from people on a car forum haha.
I've been single for four years now. Its not soooo bad, but the one nighters do get old. I've stayed away from the relationship thing because I got burned pretty bad. My current girlfriend is parked outside. She takes all my time and money, lol. Seriously though, don't be so nice. From what I've found, at least with people in their early twenties, is that the best women like the worst guys. Its amazing how far being a little bit of an ******* can take you. Its actually a confidence thing, because women like confidence in men and the chase. If you are super nice all the time, you get the friend card all the time. I used to, untill I realised the issue. There's also the cat-string theory. Women are like cats playing with a string. They want what they cannot have. As soon as that string falls at their feet, they loose interest. When you dangle that string just out of reach, they chase after it. So with women, if they know they can have you so easily, they don't want you. Take it FWIW.
You've made it clear to HER that you like her, but are YOU sure that YOU do? It sounds like you are one for looks. Do you guys share common interests? Girls will be girls. Maybe she really isn't ready for a relationship, and maybe she will end up coming around to liking you more than a friend. OR she could be leading you on, I know plenty of c-bags that do that. It makes us good girls look bad and it also makes it hard for us to find a nice guy. You can either move on, and maybe one day she'll come running to you wanting more. Or you could wait... and wait.. and wait some more. I suggest you don't put your life on hold because some girl just wants to be friends. That means don't wait on her hand and foot. She's just a friend, understand that that's all to it.
ahhh yes women, I totally agree about the being treated like crap part, at least in an early stage of the relationship it works really well, but down the road when you get more serious it wouldnt be a bad idea to drop the prick act.
It's not about being an ******* to the girl Bee. It's about not being as nice at the right time! I do know personally that being too nice just gets you walked on. They seem to want you to say "NO!", every now and then.:dunno: Then again, maybe I've just been dating the wrong kind of girls.*self centered ones* OP...Make sure that you DON'T SMOTHER HER!!! Sounds like your intentions are to do just that though.:roll:
Not all of us. I hate when people are in relationships waiting for the next good thing or keeping their options open. If they wanna keep their options open while being in a relationship with me what's the point? If I have any slight thought that I could be better off with someone else I would let the person I'm with know and end it.
She helped me stumble to bed the other night, whereupon I rolled off the bed onto the nightstand. Thats gotta count for something.
my current girlfriend cheated on my with a 25 year old (she was 17) and lied about doing it for 6 months before it took someone that was at the party to move to Idaho to grow the balls to tell me what happened, we are back togather, but she wonders why I have trust issues....... :ugh:
Being the nice guy sucks. I was a really nice guy up until I turned 20 or so. In that time I happened to meet my wife. She was a nice girl. In the end it worked out but there were 3 years in there where I learned about being a bad boy and dealing with the nice (and not nice) girls that like them. But before I start I'd like to give a big hefty +1 to the smothering talk. I was a smotherer. Many relationships that could have been ended up not happening because I was hell-bent on showing the girl how much a LURVED her. Anyway... Nice guys: Generally nice guys don't finish last. They just finish late. Here is why: (warning: blatant possibly misogynist rambling to follow. I'm just calling it as I saw/see it.) Girls mature earlier than boys do. Both physically and emotionally. They start looking for traits that guys won't show for 3-5 years later than the girls do. Nice guys are even FURTHER behind that power curve. However girls mature in a different way and they start looking for the nice guy traits after most nice guys gave up their quest to be that shining and chivalrous paladin type dude. Nice guys who remain nice guys into their late 20s and early 30s will suddenly find their selves surrounded by a bevy of ladies who wouldn't give them the time of day 3 years prior. I'm not sure why but it's something I've noticed. Moreso now that I'm in my early 30's and hang out with women in the same age group. Bad boys: Not really bad, per se, just a bit more base in their instincts. Generally they're a bit more self-assured than the nice guys and give off the vibe. You know what vibe I'm talking about. The ones the ladies go crazy for. Bad boys are a bit rebellious, a bit cockstrong, and fully prepared to get what they want from the girls. Like the Clitoris in South Park the Movie said, Chicks dig confidence. Even if that confidence comes from knowing that they want to 5F the girl. Good girls: Good girls like bad boys. Later they'll like good boys but until most of them reach their upper-20's they'll keep the good boys on retainer as their makeshift shrink. I don't know why but I have been friends with so many girls that I could legally be considered gay. For some reason my wife decided to latch on to me when I was a good boy and stuck with me as I transitioned into a bad boy. She was young. I bet if I had met her a year later she would have dropped me like a hot rock. Also, good girls may hang out with good boys when they're younger but the odds of it working out aren't good because of the smother factor. Bad girls: Bad girls like bad boys. Later they *might* end up liking good boys but most likely the string of bad boys has turned them into flinty and jaded beings. Bad girls are fun to hang out with but in my experience most of them have baggage with a capital 'B'. That baggage usually ends up showing up much later but the clues to its existence are there for the observant good and bad boys. Smart bad boys drop the bad girls before the baggage shows up via Fed Ex, dumb bad boys never see it coming. Good boys are either oblivious to the baggage or have it in their heads that they can *save* the bad girl from her baggage. WRONG. The bad girl as to deal with her own baggage and the smart good boy will leave the bad girl to sort out her issues and will come back later. Those who don't end up in what is commonly known as 'Co-Dependence.' -Advice Time- Good boys: You must be patient. Don't turn into a bad boy. Eventually the quality good girls will figure out that you're a quality dude and/or the quality bad girls will sort out their baggage and turn into a treasure. Bad boys: Have fun. Just watch out because any girl that decides to hang out with you for the long-term is probably going to figure out what she did later in life. Marriage counseling and Therapy will seriously put a damper on your car-parts spending. Good girls: Don't get stuck with a bad boy. They can change but you can't change them. Trying to do so will result in heartache for you and massive irritation for him. Just date them and get it out of your system. Bad girls: Have fun. Try to figure out what baggage you're carrying before you latch on to a boy. Remember that he can't save you. Only you can. Co-dependence is an evil evil poison that will ruin both your lives. -Summary- In the end there are exceptions. There are always exceptions. My wife is one of them and I've met a few good boys and good girls that met each other when they were young and had the good sense to realize it. If you aren't an exception just realize that all this good/bad boy/girl stuff is just a phase. Don't tie yourself down and regret it later. Date, have fun, and be open-minded enough to realize that your 20s are not the whole sum of your life.
Well said Greg. I was a nice guy and was with a nice girl. I got burned for a bad boy, so I said enough Mr. Nice Guy. I'm still a nice guy at heart, but I sure as hell won't let women I'm interested in know that. I only say this because I'm in school still, so most people I meet are in their early 20's. Women my own age are almost always over college guys, so that game is a losing one for me. You can be a good boy at heart, but put out a little bad boy persona. By yonger women this is usually percieved as confidence, at least how I've seen it. Anyways, sometimes I'm nice, other times I'm a prick. Its all in good fun, because you'll meet somany people in your 20's so who cares.
Not all girls fall into your cute little categories, Etchy. But it doesn't matter, it is good advice for the novice dater
little overdone. When you find someone who will deal w/ your BS and let you be you. You found the girl for you. Thats how i feel about it.
I agree, also for girls, when you've found a guy who still thinks you're pretty even when you feel like ****, and can handle your stupid crappy emotional mood swings, and who always tries to make you happy - that is the guy for you.
For boys: When you find a girl that cooks, cleans, picks up your messes, is always horny when you are, finds your disgusting habits cute or amusing, only speaks when spoken to, and finds the idea of shopping repulsive - that is the girl for you. edit: How could I forget the need for huge bazongas? She's got to have HUGE bazongas.
an ideal girl for me- one that is mildly into cars (not repulsed by them at least) dosnt have to cook, just clean lol and most importantly one that dosnt CHEAT or PHYSICALLY HURT ME..... I had a bad night.
^ Well said Steph. This is true and I feel the same way here. Also, maybe it's better to be friends and if you don't like that then you need to move on. Maybe right now isn't the time for more then friends with Katie and someday maybe she will see you through different eyes and things will work out. If it's ment to be it will happen even if its a couple of years from now. In the mean time get out there and mingle with different people and who knows maybe something better will come along. Good things come to those who wait and are patient. Along the way your probably going to date some crappy people. But you just need to take those experiances and bring that knowledge you learned into every relationship. With each person you date things will get better just because of the things you learn along the way. Eventually, you will find someone who understands you and likes you for you and any baggage you may bring to the table.
So is Chris the man that still loves you when you're bedraggled and emotional? Ohhhh! That's so sweet!
