Prototyping v2: Real Phenolic Spacers!!

do you know if the all the models have the same mani/tgv gasket layout? i thought i read somewhere that the RS's both old and new have the same layout.

 

i thought they did, but i am not sure to be honest... erik or someone has got to know

 

does anyone know where i can get an extra long thermo coupler??? i got one and its to short to reach into the car if i want to get the temp of the intake mani.

 

Ya know, I have access to a thermo imaging camera, anytime I want to use one.... May be aweful helpful in proving a lot of heat claims...

 

now that would be fun to play with.

 

nope not the same, different across the board, 1.8 2.2 and DOHC are the same 2.5 SOHC are different, i think phaze 2 2.2s are the same as the 2.5 SOHC

 

so to get this straight...

1.8 = 2.2 phase 1 = DOHC

2.5 SOHC = 2.2 phase 2


??

 

as far as i know

 

Yeah, I would assume similar issues as with the TBS. You'll need to find different test beds to get sizing, or at the very least, get all gasket types from Subaru to make templates for each size and series of motor.

With people wanting a thicker spacer and with even the concerns over stipping with your current spacer, you might consider selling the kit with extended bolts just to keep everything safe as well as allow you to test/run different spacer thicknesses, not only for thermal isolation but also its effect on the powerband from extending the intake track length. It's something to think about anyways.

 

yeah i agree. i need to do extensive testing regarding the stock bolt lengths and that mani/tgv spacers. anyone know of a hardware manufacturer??

 

thats idling temp. i wonder what the motor gets up to well its getting pounded, ya know like pounded to the point where the exhuast manifold is GLOWING. thats what really matters.

i would also be down for testing product on phase 1 2.2l.

 

negative...we rev'd it real high on the freeway and the higest it got was after we beat on it and let it sit for a second.

there is a max temp feature on the thermocoupler and we had it reading the entire time..idllng, beating on it, etc

 

so know what your good to go? start production?

 

i ordered a few sets for testing purposes that will be here in 2 weeks. once those testers confirm everything is mint then i'll order a ton.

 

cool sounds like a plan hope everything works

 

a couple pics. one showing it on the car...they are the same layout as the gasket so it will match up perfectly. another showing that there are enough threads left to tighten it down nicely.

 

yeah i have the 2.2 SOHC... if your making them at all i am game to buy/ test

 

It really is, took it around my house and winter, tells you right where drafts are, let me know if you want to get together one day and play around with it, It's my brother's camera.

 

here are some pics from our first shipment. thanks to evan for taking these..

 

That's a nice looking manifold and tgv's

 

so how much are they gunna run?

 

i'm thinking 59.99 for the spacers
and 9.50/set of Subaru OEM gaskets(encouraged to use new gaskets)

 

not bad deal

how about with install? if....? :biggrin:

 

install is going to be more cause its a longer process. we can definitely work out something so we can install them for you guys though.

 

what are you talking about? that one looks like ****

 

well i figured you didnt want to TEST a set on the dyno.

 

Test them on the dyno!!

Which grade of phenolic is this? I have a spacer on the stealth, works great for keeping the intake manifold somewhat manageable to the touch. NO gaskets needed in my case.

 

CE phenolic. we can definitely test them on the dyno once we know what the best way to install them is

 

as stated last night at FS, i will be buying a set

 

I'll say they look tizzight. Looked them over today when I was at Grimm's.

 

yes cup