The Nazi's have returned...

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    + 1 jason

    Everyone here who keeps on saying "it's just 80's music how is that NWS?" are either students who've never worked anything remotely similar to a real job or have a pretty awesome job with pretty awesome co-workers.

    But over here in the real world, I (and most others at work) keep my volume on mute and monitor turned away from the general view of public. And yes, I don't click on links that looks suspicious, but also quit posting on a lot of forums that I used to because they have too much NWS material posted every day. I became such an active member here in the last couple years because it was a much safer place to surf. Personally, I'm glad the mods are starting to take actions to return us back to that.

    And to all the people who argue, "don't be a retard, it's your responsibility to not click on suspicious links." That's true and I completely agree with you... it just means that mnsubaru gets crossed off my list of places to surf at work. No hard feelings, it is what it is. But I think that's the point russ and everyone else is trying to make.
     
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    1. evan more than likely knew he'd get banned and just did it for the attention that would come with getting banned(which you people are definitely giving him)

    2. i'm not able to frequent this site as much as i used to due to work, but i have also noticed that the OT:SUBARU ratio has become really whack.

    3. the mods are doing their job...please dont yell at them. i never saw the thread/link but i'm sure it was another one of evan's useless posts.

    4. the argument shouldnt be about "people shouldnt click on the links then if they are at work"....its a dang subaru forum, not a pron forum. an option for us here may be to adopt a paying NSW section like rs25.com does. we are a vendor on rs25 so i get to see the premium section and its just random stuff like this. might be a good idea to consider here as it seems to keep that crap off of the regular forums on rs25 but still makes the crap throwers happy.
     
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    Too those who have posted after I did, thank you for understanding. This isn't the mods are going to take out everyone kinda of deal. Again, we are getting 3k+ different IP's hitting this site every month. Some people are afraid to post. Yes, that is true. For you 20 somethings, do you think your parents want to log on and hang out with the group that is currently posting?? Just because the majority of the people who post are younger, doesn't mean that we don't have the older people coming onto the site. Again, this site was set up so the local subaru people could talk about their cars. I am not say that this is the only thing we can post about, but we also don't need the stupid crap. There is the WHOLE rest of the internet for that. Readymix has opened his site to the people who want to post that stuff (thank you for the offer).

    If we want this club to truely turn into a real club, then the maturity level needs to go, ALOT. Do you really think the SCCA (or anyone else for that matter) is going to take us even remotely serious when this is what we present them with??

    Yes, this is the off topic forum, but this off topic is not a free for all. This forum is here for those things that want to be talked about that don't fit into any of the other forums. This forum is not a open pass to post anything you want. Never has been, never will be.

    For those that can see the big picture and can understand the mods job, thank you. For the mods that do this job and don't hear this enough, thank you. We are stiving to make this a warm, open, and enviting community where anyone can join and everyone can get along. That is a VERY large task to try and accomplish, but we are trying.

    And for anyone that was hurt or offended by me retard/clown name calling, I am sorry. I am just a little tired of reading that the mods are nazi's for doing their jobs.

    Russ
     
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    i do totally understand and appreciate the fact that we have mods that partol the site because without you we wouldnt even have a functioning website to surf but i have no idea why there would even be an Off Topic area if we couldnt post totally off topic stuff every now an then. the threads for anything car related would seem more at home in any of the other forums on here anyways. If evans post was really intended to be that annoying then i can sympathize with the mods decision to ban him. but to call off anything even slightly childish wouldnt be that much fun. If his link had been posted in the general section of the site it would have been a way bigger deal.

    for people with great "real world" jobs who dont want to get fired i dont see any reason why if we kept all the poop theads in the Off topic area because it would keep some saftey for people at work. they wouldnt need to venture into the unknown and stay in the on topic areas. thats why i dont get what all the fuss was about. if your really here to talk about cars and subaru, why would searching the Off topic area be a good idea? i dont even make these totally pointless threads like evan did but if i had clicked on his i would have had a good laugh. it was in the off topic thread.... and it was most deff off topic haha.
     
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    Well, I think the point is that if this is the kind of place where you consistently come across NWS content, this is going to be a website to avoid while at work.

    And I don't know how most people use the boards, but I hit the "new posts" button at the top and usually just refresh every so often. I don't really browse by forum. Sure, I take a glance to see which forum it's in before clicking through, but the point is that if I can't casually browse mnsubaru for a little break at work without worrying about getting fired and loosing my house, I'll probably spend my time elsewhere.
     
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    Well this thread is now like kicking a dead moose... It was funny while it lasted. Glad things got cleared up.
     
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    really.. I just clicked the red x.. then ok about a bazillion times... ha ha ha
     
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    hey Zak I said pretty much the same thing.. if you dont wanna get in trouble then use self control at work.. if your work is relaxed then use wise judgement.. i dont think he was judging...
     
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    I can't believe this thread is still going on.
     
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    I can't believe its not butter! :-O
     
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    YES that's why there is NASIOC... and also why many people who go there come away crying about it too.... ha ha flip a coin live with the results... I was one who said dont click on it at work... I work a serious JOB and I look online real quick between pulling vehicle reports for work orders emails but not so much this site... even in my emails I get links I have to think twice likte the one my old tech sent me with title.. @ HOT CHICKS... yeah can you say 400+pound girls going down on each other... glad I never opened that one at work.. ha ha

    Jason summed it up well... which he illustrated the greatest dead horse floggin int he history of WWW aka "MnSubaru doesnt have a true OFF TOPIC forum'

    close thread you naz......ty mods
     
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    I think that some (a couple) of the avatars around here bend the NSFW rules a bit, but I am not complaining, as I have seen what complaining to a mod gets me (the people still have them, and I had to ignore one of the users while I was at work so I didn't run the risk of getting into trouble) i donno. This thread has surved it's purpose. Everyone has had their say.
     
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    you be talking about Miss STI belt straps for a bikini???
     
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    I dream of her every night, hoping one morning when I open my car door she'll be there. She has yet to make good on that :( :(
     
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    Whoah! Whoa, did.. someone say, Miss. Sti? :eek2: :laugh:
     
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    This thread is epically futile. It represents the gross confluence of ineptitude, self-righteousness, and ego run amok.

    Too many "solutions" seeking actual problems. As for the *deep* demographic analysis it's not too hard to figure out the target demo for the products involved is 18-35yo men. What is with the flip comment regarding 20yo's and their parents (and retards)? Very mature.

    The Dan Phayle Vice Presidential Unachievement Award has its first recipient!

    I call absolute BS on any assertions that sophomoric humor in the OT is "turning people away" or resulting in sanctioning bodies "not taking us seriously". WTF does that even mean? Evidence please.

    The theme of this thread has been covered ad nauseum on the local mountain bike forum I've frequented for years. 11 times out of 10 times (yes, it has been turned to 11) the alleged "issues"/"concerns" prove to be nothing more than certain people with admin rights allowing their opinions/fears to materialize as eFacts.

    Hell, I'm the old (35yo) bald guy - with wife, kids, "real job" (as if other peoples' jobs aren't real or valid:roll:) and can't for the life of me understand what the alleged concerns could be.

    Also, the not so subtle redacting/editing of posts needs to cease and desist. It is cowardly and dishonest.

    I digress by hereby dousing the entirety of this thread in a heavy shellac of doodoo butter and baby gravy.

    Freedom isn't free. It costs a buck-o-five.

    Sean

    PS - Tornahn00s lost to a V70R frumdiggz at Burntrock tonight - we have 40+ witnesses. A great(er) shame has fallen on Mudder Rusha
     
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    Those are Takata's man, srsly...

    Also, I think she's in a 350Z.
     
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    idk bout you guys but Rick Astley pwns...well @ least the "Rick Roll" song pwns. Love the dance moves too...lol
     
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    :roll: I love how everything wrong with the site turns out to be the moderators, who by and large have been allowing you to post whatever crap you want for months now. talk about self righteous, do you even read what you wrote?

    I think the problem is many of you are remorseless crybabies who balk at any hint of anyone trying to tell you that you can or can't do. You innuendo here is laughable:

    you have got to be kidding me. again, doodoo butter getting on his high horse because apparently moderators are also not allowed to be half as immature as you are. wtf makes you so sanctimonious?

    If evidence is having to explain to every person who races a subaru legitimately in the state that it might actually be worth posting here and having each and every one of them tell me this site is full of idiotic man-children who while away the bored hours at work imitating a high school lunch table, well then there it is. I don't want to post emails sent privately on here due to the fact that you would not doubt use the same passive aggressive "you are no fun" crap on them too. Look at the numbers there is a good reason why we have so many lurkers and so few posters. Its not just OT, its everywhere. I

    Great for you. You're still being an immature pot stirrer like several others.

    ok since you are calling people cowards and demanding evidence, let me see some evidence of this strong claim. And keep this in mind, an edited post that is edited before the next person posts isn't exactly a cowardly redaction.

    I think that is because of the general climate that whenever anything is even slightly moderated here we get an unholy fury of self righteousness for oh, about 5% of the totla membership of the site, who enjoy using their self obsessed pseudo outrage to belabor every last act of moderation.

    I mean look at this, one guy gets a one week ban for something that has resulted in permanent bans on many other forums with the same rules as ours, and we get memorial threads like the guy was murdered, self righteous idiocy and a wave of whining like we had personally violated the human rights of every person on the internet.

    If anyone can moderate a bunch of sanctimonious crybabies who have paper thin skin for more than a month without just giving up on them I give them my personal thanks.

    you are absolutely right, this thread has served its purpose, its been a self righteous soapbox for certain members for a while now and its ridiculous.

    I haven't heard anything about the avatars but let me know and I'll take care of it, I can name one right now that I agree with you on as well. If someone has to be the evil boogeyman of cleaning **** crap up, I don't care if its me, I can tolerate the inhuman crybabiness some of these people.
     
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    Quoted for truths
     
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    I couldn't agree more, but if we were to lock it... the torrent of complaints would just spring up again about us being nazis for getting rid of it.

    Its only purpose now is for someone new to come by and grandstand for a bit.
     
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    i for one had NO interest in reading Zak's long ass post... probably rambled and complained.


    anyone...spark notes for me? :biggrin:
     
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    basically...

    Curly is Gay

    He also like little boys

    Curly likes to wear clown pants

    Doesnt own a razor

    and is a crybaby...


    I think that sums it up
     
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    Hit that nail on the head!:laugh:
     
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    Wide right Norwood. Swing and miss. Fumble-laya. Airball. Strike three. Techinical Foul. Red flag. Tap out. Turnover on downs.

    For the love of baby jeebus, can't we all just get along? OT is OT - end of discussion. Banishment for porn and personal attacks makes sense. Trying to legislate taste is a one way, non-refundable ticket to Failsville - population, you.

    Uh, errr, by the way, I can't provide evidence of a post that's been redacted, eliminated or edited by an admin unless maybe someone were to quote the post before it was changed. Even then, I'm sure that could be "fixed" too...:roll:

    People need to get over themselves. It's the innardwebz and this lil' o' site isn't even a pimple on its ever expanding buttocks. Nobody really *cares* what is or is not said here. Seriously. If someone is truly that concerned or offended by what happens here I can't imagine what an insufferable wet blanket they might be in real life.

    In closing, Curly es mucho macho.
     
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    This is not pointed a one person in particular. I have heard this from many people now. I am getting sick of hearing "lighten up its the interweb".

    You may think it is just the internet but you are wrong that this is only the internet. Yes it is posted here on the internet but this is also a community.... or at least that is what a LOT of people here have been working towards for a long time (way before I came here). We do see each other, have events, and gatherings and need to get along, or at least try. If some people want to keep this attitude that this is just the internet and it does not matter than leave and go somewhere else with the trolling and BS. This is suppose to be a community of Subaru, and other, enthusiasts. There are a lot of people that are getting very sick of all the childish BS that has been happening here. It is time to grow up a little. If you have not noticed there is an ever growing group of people trying to move this club forward. We do not need anymore of this pot stirring BS.
     
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    Okay, I started this thread, and now I am giving the go-ahead to lock/delete it. It has gone far beyond a turn for the worse, and it's also past the point of no return.

    For the love of god(or whoever else you may worship), lock or delete this thread.
     
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    Curious as to what this "community" or other alternate universe/idealistic utopia is that continues to be referenced. I've met many (most?) of the people that frequent this site and there seems to be a fundamental disconnect between how people interact in person and via the web.

    Certainly, there are a few douchebags (handraiser, for argument's sake) but the vast majority of the people - yes, including mods - that I've met through MNSubaru, ESPECIALLY the allegedly childish/immature ones, are very cool and fun to be around in person. In fact, it's these very savages who are almost universally the most knowledgeable, helpful and accessible Subaru enthusiasts. It is the folks trying to turn this place into Sunday School that have the issues.

    If a certain subset of members are hell bent on defining good taste why not just get rid of the OT forum altogether? Porn and personal attacks aside, there is no in-between in OT forums - on any site. There are clearly just as many, if not more, users that are mature enough to accept the sophomoric humor for what it is - blowing off steam, busting balls, etc. - than the opposing viewpoint. If the site's approach to handling such matters is not representative of the constituents' positions then how is this not more akin to fascism than a democracy?

    Finally, and this is not subject to negotiation or interpretation, it is a known fact THIS IS JUST THE INTERNET. The platitudes and Foxs News-esque sound bites such as "...moving the club forward..." are spurious at best. WTF does that even mean? Comments of that ilk come from the type of person that volunteers to be the condo association president so that he/she can tell people how to prune their shrubbery.

     
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    I <3 t3h internetz
     
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    what is amazing is that you (soupy) have managed to perfectly reinforce just about every point that I made.

    bravo sir, nobody can make you look like as much of an idiot as you yourself can. excellent job.
     
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    ah, personal attacks. gotta love it.
     
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    lol, i cannot believe how naive you guys are, you sit here and make personal attacks against us all day, and they act like the biggest crybabies on earth about it. all you, soupboy and holster do on this thread is whine like children.

    children who want attention.

    I swear, dealing with children is easier than this.

    I'd rather watch you guys keep digging your own grave than lock this thread by this point. You are incapable of a) reading a post, b) refuting an argument or c) coming up with anything on your own. Its funny and sad all at the same time.
     
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    wow, i have so much i COULD say and post but i choose not to.

    I think its absolutely hilarious you think of and see yourself so damn high and mighty. You sir, are a completely opinionated jackass.

    Oh yeah, and i want my god damned parts back or my ****ing money, its been a good year.
     
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    mopeds r gay
     
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    ???

    you're going to have to explain more to me about your "****ing money or parts" I was unaware that setting you up with another person to get parts through was my problem, I put you guys in contact months ago, i am just a guy in the middle.

    for your blown turbo that you claimed had "no shaft play..."

    But nice try there, I don't owe you a goddamn thing so stop trying to front like I am cheating you or playing a false deal here, you're reaching for stuff right now and its sad. You're just another guy who wants to make it your personal crusade to keep this going as long as possible and to be frank you're just grandstanding like the others. You aren't even making points you're just devolving into silly names by now.

    Its not like you guys aren't completely opinionated too, its jsut you suck at actually explaning yourself. I apologize if I make it clear what I mean when I say it. Now you can make fun of how long this post is all you want, but if you actually read it you'll have a very crystal clear idea of what it is i'm telling you, not just a bunch of innuendo and vague name calling. I like it specific.

    its funny that there is "so much you could say" but I doubt you have anything more than just a bunch of silly names to call and a bunch more whiney whine about how things aren't as you want them and not as the rules state. I'm a moderator, I am here to make sure people follow the rules. Sorry, thats my job, and I'm sticking to it, I don't care how much it makes you unhappy. If you don't like it you know where the door is. I am not going to put up with your silly innuendo and childish feinting anymore.

    To be frank the only thing you have left now is to throw out silly names and insults, so please, if thats all you have left, might as well tell me to my face. I'm at firestone all the time, and I'd love to hear what you have in mind. But I know you aren't a bad person, but you are internet persona one way and regular guy the next way and I hate it when people do that. Thats one of the things I admire about readymix, he is the same no matter where you get him. you are just trying to be popular when you are in front of this crowd and then still liked when you are in front of me, and that is two faced.

    sorry if it sounds harsh but i'm sick of this crap. You know me and you talk to me to my face all the time, you know where to find me and complain, i'll be there and I'll still be the same person I always am.

    And hey, I don't have anything against "real you" but "internet you" isn't the same person.
     
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    attention? thanks...

    if your going to pull that card you might at well not even reply to any of our "crying" posts. youd only be giving us the great amount of attention that you say we are asking for. so thanks for playing on both sides of the feild on that topic.

    all i have been arguing is that whats the big deal if we keep the off topic posts in the OFF TOPIC part of the site! i agree that if someone were to post somthing totally uncalled for in the events or general area, it would be a big deal. The idea that something a little immature might be posted in the appropriate forum would make you loose sleep and feel the need to bang the ban button? really? i mean im not arguing that your job is easy because its not but that doesnt mean that i agree that the job gets done right all of the time.

    i love how you always say we are on our high horses. just because i say my opinion means im looking down on everyone? no sir. i dont see it like that. im just speaking up about how i feel on the topic. so please take your but hurt attutide to the bathroom and put some lotion on. all youve done is personaly attack everyone who might think diffrently from you and i for one didnt start attacking anyone in the first place.

    be a little more open minded.
     
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    almost every post youve made in this thread. lots of name calling.
     
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    I thought for a second to cull exact time the moderators from this site (including me) were insulted in this thread long ago, but I figured any reasonable person could read it for themselves.

    if you bristle at being called an idiot by someone when people are calling you a nazi then there is something serioulsy sanctimonious and whiny going on.

    the funniest part is half the time you are like "its the internet, if you are offended by anything you are lame" and the other half of the time you guys are "please oh please stop insulting me."

    I apologize using your own words to expose your hypocrisy or challenging you on uncertain innuendo is making you feel bad, but I'm not responsible for how much of a fool you want to make yourself.

    If the strongest language here I've used is "fool" and "idiot," then some thicker skin needs to be grown here.
     
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    just because i posted in here dosent mean that i called you a Nazi your making over exadurated posts to say that i was being such a hypcrit. you draged that out for unnesasary reasons because if you had even read my posts with any comprehension skills you would have known that. your the only person who is defending your side right now. maybe you should just chill out dude. after i posted, YOU were the one to start name calling and getting your panties all in a bunch. calm down dude. i dont even think you even read my posts. you have repeated the same thing over and over again. but im done here. i think you should realise how childish you have been in this pointless argument being so upset at everyone.

    have a good one.
     
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    this thread makes me lol
     
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