Thinking of upgrading my turbo to a custom billet wheel vf46. This is the propaganda.

Cause I need that manual. And a juice nexus upgrade

 

I'd say if you add more timing and switch to E85 you should be pretty happy with it. The more timing you add the better, there's really no such thing as too much. Just try and get your injectors to the highest duty cycle possible, add timing, and lean it out so you can hit that peak HP and TQ faster and more efficiently.

Trust me, I'm a doctor.

 

never been to turkmenestan.

 

I was joking about the hardend criminals. The mood on this site is just grittier then other sites I use. That's what I was referring to. Also should give you hint at my tone.

I wasn't looking for a pat on the back, but I am surprised at the acidity. You guys get riled up.

I also don't know about all these other threads where I post for advice and do the opposite.

If you are referring to the snow tires, I'm going with two sets I think.

If you are referring to the short throw shifter, not everyone hated kartboy.

If you are referring to data logging I just let NF do it so I wasn't breaking laws or being unsafe.

Can't we just all get along.

 

thicker skin. grow some.

 

I'm away all day, but let me just apologize for my miss steps here. I'll try to learn this site a little better and not create so many threads.

Acidity was the wrong word. Perhaps collegial ribbing is more appropriate. I'll work on thickening my skin.

 

No worries, it is the internet. There is always one way or another way, you chose the different way. That may include some ribbing.

 

I think the OP should just be glad Readymix didn't show up.

 

I unliked this just so I could like it again.

 

God I love you derp

 

He's not too far from the truth.

Actually if anyone needs an extra pair of hands for a rebuild I'd love to help out to learn more.

 

Obviously JDM based on steering wheel.

 

Now you're making sense.. Although sometimes doing things yourself such as your exhaust which literally consists of pulling off the stock parts and replacing them with the upgraded parts is a great way to learn. You could also very easily do things like intake, fuel pump etc.. I personally believe that struggling through things and making mistakes is an excellent way to learn, you also seem to be able to research things very well which will also help you to be able to do your own installs.

 

You forgot to add "rant done" at the end

 

Nope, I just thought it would wrap it up nicely. But I also like to just pointlessly comment on stuff too.. So ignore me

 

The best part of this entire thread is Jason's sig. This thread hasn't delivered enough.

 

I'm just happy if he leaves money on the dresser on the way out.

 

readymix is the worst there is.

 

Update again:

Just got a new tune with the clutch out of break in. Actually got a chance to talk to Nuke a bit this time. He initially felt the same as a lot of you. He didn't expect it to do anything other than stock performance. After the first pull though he was impressed with air flow and stated it was flowing more air then stock 46's do. Infact he said as we were pulling it was close to a 52. As we did the final pull I was giggling in my seat. It might not be a neck snapper, and pinning is relative, but I felt giddy. All that says is the amount of power was right for me. Admittedly I'm not a lead foot. We were pushing the car harder then I think I would in Daily Driving. Ultimately reliability is a major concern for me. As power goes up I've heard reliability goes down. I think I will stay where I am for now.

The performance of the Snake Oil™ VF46 seemed to perform as the seller suggested. If the performance was as stated I feel his additional assertions that the reliability was improved may also be there. I don't have dyno numbers, and it could all be placebo. All I can really report on was Nukes comments during the pull. As far as my personal satisfaction I'm satisfied.

 

ftfy

Snake Oil has a upgraded journal bearing with thicker shaft supposedly. The claim is that it's internals, not just the wheel but the thrust plate, shaft, and bearing are heartier then even the 52. I can't verify that, I can only say I wasn't lied to about the performance.

 

Dumb.

 

Taken from the turbo failure wiki that was linked to earlier:

Underlying causes

"4. Weak turbo design. The turbine shaft is extremely small in diameter and there is a groove cut into it right behind where the turbine wheel is welded to the shaft, which is believed to weaken it considerably. If the shaft breaks, this is where it will happen. IHI’s bearing design is considered by many to be rather outdated, and inferior to other, newer designs. IHI themselves have several different bearing cartridges and they vary in size. The VF-40 and VF-46 use some of the smallest cartridges seen on turbos with wheels in this size range."

Yup, this is a thing. Snake Oil is supposed to have a different shaft without the groove cut and small diameter. The only other reason the STOCK 40/46 fail is because of oiling issues. The only difference in the shaft between a stock 52 and 40 is the shaft is slightly thicker.

 

I mean this is the most constructive, friendly way possible: stop wasting your time with trying to appease the others in this thread about the decision you made with your car. It's your car, your goals, and your money. You don't need validation from anyone else on the modifications that you've made to your car.

 

Your really should have done a turbo delete. Your car would be much more reliable.

 

Trust me I'm not posting updates for appeasement. I don't think that was at all possible once I purchased this thing anyway. Since I started this thread and was crossing into unknown territory I thought I would post info about my experience and continue to share it as it progressed. I haven't posted about this anywhere else and despite the flak or maybe because of it, it just made sense to see it through. The only other information I could find similar to what I did was here: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f159/billet-compressor-wheels-19t-conversion-171577/ I've read good things about billet wheels in other spots but few candid experiences about them.

Honestly I love my car right now, but I understand what people are saying and it could be a number of factors at play that are affecting my perception. I'm not so mentally inflexible to not consider multiple perspectives as possible. In fact I usually value opposing opinions because they draw focus to weaknesses that should be considered. Xluben may be right in that this is the most expensive stage 2 way to go, though I spent about as much as used turbo would be on this thing and I think I got a bump in performance and a bump in reliability at the same time. My DD throttle response is pretty fun, and in the few times I've been driving it since the new tune I have to really think if its safe place to floor it because of the quickness of it. What I love most actually is I get quite a bit of juice without flooring it which is really nice for most of my normal driving. A vf52 or 16g might perform just as well in the lowend (and without question better on the top I'm sure), I don't know, but from what I've seen I think this thing kicks in a little sooner. I really want to ride someday in a legacy with a 52 or 16g. Unfortunately at this point, I'm not sure anyone would let me if I attended a meet up. I think this thread has ruffled some feathers even though I avoided being caustic. Thats what makes me the saddest I think. I was hoping to be part of the community.

If people don't like it thats fine they are free to not like it. Haters gonna hate, or call names etc. I've got stones enough to take it at this point. And some of its pretty funny. I've got no hard feelings. For example, I like calling it Snake Oil™.

Anyway I doubt I'll update again unless I notice interesting things via data logging. If I dyno and it turns out Snake Oil™ is snake oil I'll report that too. I can own up to mistakes. I'm not scurd.

Enjoy your turkey, turkeys. (Thats a joke in case that's not clear this time.)

 

Hows your mega awesome turbo?
Do you still have the stock turbo? @emc2003 is in need of a stock turbo