Yeah it will be pretty stealthy. I had a 6266 on my 2011. It was a pretty good midsize turbo. About as fast as the 60-1 on my 2002. The 6266 made quite a bit more power but the car was heavier. Spool is not like a VF39. LOL.
Was past 24psi at 3k... No way would anyone want that car to come off the dealer lot that way... Absolutely nuts fast. Would hate to see how many kids wrecked them. Lol
I'm serious. Too late to get into it too much. But basically, 05 ej257 block and crank. Pauter rods, Wiseco (last I heard they're still in there) 10:1 pistons, lots of head work and I'm not sure which cams he ended up with (I watched him test 4 sets one weekend). Motec stand alone all on e85. Last I remember hearing, he said he was around 635 whp. Can't remember torque numbers... Fun ride but a hell of a headache to take out for a spin... When I asked you what turbo that was, I didn't mean to get into this drawn out discussion of how to make the bigger one spool. Sorry for the derailment.
You're saying "your buddy" has a 62mm that spools like a TD04 and makes 600WHP. But Subaru chooses to use much smaller, laggier, and less powerful turbos so that people don't crash. I'll believe it when I see it. What's it run in the 1/4? Is this the same dyno that the guy made 750WHP on a 2009 WRX with a 6266?
Don't know what dyno that WRX was on. Only time Jared had the car on the dragstrip he ran mid-tens at 130ish and got booted. (I wasn't there, don't know exact numbers) It's basically a road course track day toy, no cage yet. I might be putting one in for him next year, we'll see. As for why Subaru runs the system they do, I wouldnt have the foggiest idea. I would hazard a guess that cost, availability, reliability, durability, and performance all play a part in that decision. Why did they run the ultra soft pistons in the 08-14 STi engines??? Better parts are available...
I am certainly no expert nor will I claim to be, but shouldn't the charged side of the intake be rotated roughly 90 degrees counter clockwise so that the piping won't have to make an extreme turn immediately out of the turbo? Set up looks pretty awesome though!
Hard to tell from that angle, but if the turbo was clocked like you suggest, it would have the output going directly into the frame rail. Pointing it down, and then having a 90° bend into the FMIC is the best I can do. I'm planning to run a Treadstone FMIC and hopefully I can get the piping to work out with out too much effort.
Any chance to run the FMIC with side inlets on top, and clock the turbo so the outlet sneaks between the rail and the headlight?
You would have to start cutting lots of metal, run a very small FMIC pipe, and probably cut up your bumper and have the pipe stick through. With Fobia's kit and a FMIC with end tanks that have inlets on top (like Perrin) it is common to clock the turbo down, then do a 180° bend, and then a 90° into the FMIC. I'm hoping to do just a 90° by having the end tanks inlet on the bottom. With the Treadstone core it will be close. It may actually go back too far and hit the turbo, so I might have to cut it down a bit.
That treadstone FMIC looks too small. I don't understand why subaru didn't make the turbo setup like that from the factory, it clearly will have better spool than a vf39. El oh el
Wow that's a big IC, it'll be interesting to see your mock-up fit with it installed and how it affects routing. Does PTE offer an opposite-hand compressor housing?
Jesus chirsto...this thing is going to be a beast! Spring for those axles yet? lol I've yet to hear one of these fog light mounts in person, but I can't imagine that the noise it makes is anything less than baby killing. You'll have to take me for a ride sometime if you'll be so kind
Fingers crossed on the FMIC fitment. I'll find out once it arrives. Exhaust dump out the fender is pretty loud, especially inside. Here's Fuji's solution during cam break in. Haha. It may end up being a bit much for street use. I'll decide once I get some time on it.
Based on hearing Brian's car at RS, street use => haha - unless it's just for driving to and from the strip Would be cool to have a streetbike-style oval muffler with a 90 inlet that could be clamped on for street use, angled back and up above the front wheel well
You have a lot of ideas. You should do them on your car. I looked it up. Looks good. Similar to stock, but a little nicer due to more of it being painted. I wouldn't mind it mainly because it's all one piece, so less things to drop on the ground when I take the bumper off.
I don't mind ideas and suggestions, but I do have somewhat of a plan already going in my head. Most of the oiling components should be arriving today. Still need FMIC as well. Took a few more mock up pics. Likely have to cut ~6" off the exhaust dump to get it to sit flush with the side of the bumper. Will have to extend this mounting tab a little to reduce stress on the flex before final install. Good clearance around the oil pan and filter. Wastegate should be easy to access.
Would it be riveted on? Or is there a better attachment method? Something simple would be good. Just so the bumper doesn't melt.
Treadstone FMIC came in. It's huge! It's going to be a bit of work to make it fit with the turbo. I did a mock up install of the FMIC. Had to trim a couple tabs off just to get it mounted. I'll likely have to do a bit more trimming before the final install. Unfortunately the turbo to FMIC didn't line up as perfectly as I'd hoped. I can't install both at the same time due to interference but I did some Photoshop overlays. I will probably need to get a photo from directly underneath to confirm, but this is what I'm thinking so far. Chop off the end of the compressor outlet, and weld an elbow on. Also will have to cut down the FMIC end tank inlet an inch or two. Then hopefully it will just be a straight or possibly 45° coupler to the intercooler. Any other thoughts?
I cant really tell but is there any way to mount the turbo a little farther back? In the pictures it looks like you might be able to but you would have to get the "uppipe" rewelded to come straight over and probably the "downpipe" would have to be reworked so it doesn't hit your wheel...might be too much hassle, I don't know. At least then you wouldn't have to cut up the nice cast end tank and would give you some more room to make the bend less severe for the charged air. I could see how that might push the turbo too far back toward the suspension/wheel though.
Chopped a couple inches off the end tank and was able to mount both the turbo and core at the same time. Decided it would be best NOT to do any permanent mods to the compressor housing (in case I ever want to switch turbos) so Matt will be chopping off more of the end tank and fabbing up some new piping.
I'm so jealous of your setup right now. So much courage. I could never afford or do anything of this caliber to my subaru. Plus, I wouldn't know how my wife would take it with me spending that much $. The only thing I would ask is a shot gun ride when its finish.
Going with an NA daily driver and an older, cheaper car to mod has made it a lot easier for me. The car can sit in the garage for months at a time and it doesn't matter. Bought it with cash, pay cash for all the mods, and take insurance off of it when it sits. So it really doesn't cost me anything to have it sitting for the winter. All of it is paid for with side work and selling things. None with our normal income or our photography business. My wife is very understanding of the time spent though. I hope this setup works well. I'd be happy to give you a ride whenever I get it back on the road.
The # one thing is the "understanding wife"! Looking good Papa Ben. Fobia should be able to make it work, he always does!! Any plans for a cage?
Gotcha. What kind of #'s/times do they require you to have a full cage? I know that you'll be at the drag strip this spring with it! Also, are you doing a flush mount on the fender with the exhaust?
I believe under 11.5 sec needs a cage. Rockfalls booted me after my first 2 full passes the last time I was out. I think I'll probably leave it sticking out a couple inches for now. I'm not sure if flush mount will melt things faster (bumper, tire, etc).
Either way it will scare the hell out of people when you pull up next to them in traffic! LOL Good luck getting it all squeezed in there and i can't wait to see it once it's done!
After a few revisions the FMIC end tank is redone. Chopped off the end completely and then Fobia welded on a flat plate. Off of that it is a 2.5" OD, 90° bend. Then it's just a 90° coupler onto the turbo. It's a tight fit, and kind of a trick to get on, but I think it will work. There's not a lot of material for the coupler to grab onto, but I hope it is enough. It ended up looking pretty clean and simple, IMO. Coupler installed: Big enough intercooler?
Looking nice. Have you thought about maybe adding an elbow to the turbo and connecting the turbo to the ic pipe with a vanjen clamp?
Yes, but I decided against that to keep the turbo universal. Right now I can swap in a 58, 62, 64, or 67mm PTE turbo within a few minutes. I like having that option even if I am not swapping frequently.
Nope. Still the Gen 1 6266. You can tell by how the blades look from the front: Gen 1 CEA is on the left and Gen 2 CEA is on the right. Gen 1 CEA: 58mm, 62mm, 67mm, 71mm, 72mm, etc. Gen 2 CEA: 62mm (Gen2), 64mm, 68mm, 72mm (Gen2), etc
