Ok so I have a 04 wagon and just got some 18x9.75 xxr 527's! The only problem is that I guess they won't fit a wagon is what I'm being told from some people?? I will need a fender roll and pull! Does anyone know if this will work and if anyone knows of someone to roll and pull my fenders? Thanks!!
As far as I know, the XXR 527 is only offered in one offset for the 18x9.75" size. That offset is +20! I'm guessing the wheel is going to stick out well past the fender on your car. You are going to need an extremely stretched tire and excessive camber in order to make these even close to fitting (as well as a major roll and pull).
And stretched tires are for retards. You might look into getting those plastic fenders that you rivet onto the car, and then cut the metal out of the way. You're going to need some serious space to make those fit with proper tires. Otherwise, your best bet would be to sell those wheels and get something that fits properly.
^And that's on the newer body style with widebody fenders. Here's one with the 08-10 WRX (non-widebody), stretch is even worse: I'm guessing the older wagons have even less room.
^ where are the tracks that this train is suppose to ride on? I bet curb rash would not be a problem... Once the lip is completely torn off. My advise see post #3
Anything around 8" is considered extremely wide on a GD wagon body and that's with a standard offset range. 9.75 in wide with a stupid low offset range (ie +20) is going to require serious body work to fit. Like Jason said, you may want to just look at bolt on fender flares and cutting the sheet metal (and buying properly sized tires) or just sell the wheels and get something in a 17 or 18x8 if you just have to have wide wheels. It's been said already, but I'll pound it home again. Stretched tires are for retards. This Hellaflush fad needs to go away.
+1 to what everyone said here There is a thread dedicated to aggresive offset setups on subaruforester.org Most people on there are running 17/18 by 9" with anywhere from a 32-38 offset, depending on brand. The people running even wider are still in that same offset range but are all running full coilovers, rolled/pulled fenders, obnoxious camber and alot are still having to run rediculously streached tires. My advice is as stated above... SELL and research more set ups that aren't going to require so much extreme modification.
I forgot to mention earlier, the amount of rolling and pulling that would be required for this would distort your rear quarter panels past the point of repair, and you still wouldn't get close to the edges of the wheel/tire. I don't know if you'd be able to find a shop that would take on that sort of liability.
Yeah, you might be able to swap to sedan fenders/bumper and get them to mostly fit up front. Rear is going to be near impossible without it looking real dumb or doing a ton of body and/or suspension work... all for a $400 set of wheels no less.
Simple answer: remove the body panels. You can be a trend setter. OMFG! Sheetmetal is hella ghey! Exposed unibody is SICK, yo!
The sad part is that you can fit some serious rubber underneath this body style. I've seen guys running 295s with only minor work. 265s will fit with only a roll in the back. Seeing one with stupidly narrow tires makes me hope the owner isn't breeding.
Ok everyone thanks for all the help! I got them returned and am waiting for 17x8.25 with +25 offset! I am getting the Sti/ sedan from fenders in carbon fiber and some coilovers but not sure which ones I'm getting with a full whiteline suspension( sway bars, rear lat bars,end links, strut bars, and a few more parts I got) so Im thinking 215/45 or 225/45! What do u think?
You'll probably still rub in the rear without massive camber... which you can probably do depending on the coilovers (with camber plates) and rear lateral links (adjustable) you go with. The offset is stupid low and the rim will probably stick out by about 10mm in the rear. Even 225 wide tires will be fairly stretched on an 8.25" wheel depending on which tire (check tirerack for actual tire width for the tire model). Anyway, its going to look retarded and when I see it in person I'm going to laugh at you. Then when I look under your car and realize you spent thousands of dollars on handling mods yet chose form over function for the only part of your suspension that touches the road, I'll cry a little then laugh at you some more.
One last attempt... Good sizes for a 02-07 WRX wagon 17x7 18x7 17x7.5 +48 offset 18x7.5 +48 17x8 +45 offset 18x8 +45 offset That's pretty much it. Everything else is going to require you to do fender mods. And even with some of those choices, you might need to pull the fenders just a bit. The proper tires for those wheels would be either a 215-45-17 or 215-40-18 for the 7" wides, and 225-45-17 or 225-40-18 for the 7.5 and 8" wides. Stretching tires is retarded, as is stretched tires with thousands of dollars in suspension mods. That's actually more retarded. If you're going to stretch tiny tires onto wide wheels, don't bother with whiteline stuff, just get a plasma torch and hack your springs down to slam it. Then you can go hang out with all the Stance/HellaFlush/fatlace morons.
There are so many thoughts running through my head right now. Where to start? You're throwing lots of money away because whatever benefits you'll get from the upgraded suspension parts you'll quickly lose to the stretched tires. You're going to be spending a ton of money to try and stuff wheels that are far too wide for the car underneath it. You do not have anywhere close to enough room in the rear end of that car to fit a wheel of that width/offset without some serious body work, and even then it's iffy at best. Are you looking to actually improve the handling of the car or just trying to be stylish like the other kiddies? Why would you spend the money on all of those decent suspension components only to hobble it with crappy wheels and tires? You're not having children anytime soon, are you? Those are the first thoughts that are coming to mind. Having owned a few GD wagons and trying out different suspension/wheel setups, I can tell you that a 17x8 with a 215/225 with a normal offset is going to require a serious fender rolling. Adding another 1.5 inches (give or take) is going to require serious work, and all you'll be doing is making your car handle like crap, uprated suspension mods or no.
The only thing it has going for it right now is that the tires appear to be the correct size. If he plans to track that wagon, he's on the right path. But he'll want some fender covers or something. But odds are, he's doing it for looks...and it looks retarded.
Hi! Welcome to Mnsubaru. I like '04 Wrxs even if they are wagons. Contact a dude named Taras ( I think ) on http://www.mnsportcompacts.net or 08turbogt here he has a fender roller.
Surprisingly I put the rims on and they only stick out about a half inch from the exact place my stockers sit? Did the math and looked at it! I'm glad everyone has said their peice even with the negative comments! I was thinking that my car had the same wheel space as the regular sedan when I bought em so I was thinking just didn't think of that?? Duh! Sometimes I rush but I'll make it work and post pics when I get my tires! Thanks even for the negative feed back!
The wagon I posted was actually a joke. the guy put the wheels from his sti on it and took a picture. edit- you can see the sti on jacks next to it
I have these on my '03 wagon with Eibach springs. The fronts did not require any work. The rears require rolling the fender lips, but it was not a big deal. I am pleased with the results. The wheel wells are filled nicely without the douchebag yo-boy look. Sorry, the only pic I have is on my other pc.
215 tires fall into a width range of 7-8.5" for wheel width. 7 being the ideal size. It's a bit of a stretch for sure, but it isnt entirely unsafe or anything. Still, I would want my sidewalls to properly protect my wheels from damage.
